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> Devout Christians like Kirk who say things like Kirk did genuinely believe that they are expressing kindness rather than hatred by doing so. They are allowed

> Devout Christians like Kirk who say things like Kirk did genuinely believe that they are expressing kindness rather than hatred by doing so. They are allowed to believe that saying their souls will be eternally damned is a kindness just as the subjects are allowed to believe that it is unkind. It is disrespectful to continue to say given that context. Christianity's version of the Abrahamic God will look poorly on Kirk and his ilk and His Judgement will have them burn eternally in Hell for their espoused beliefs and the pain and suffering they help cause. They should repent and seek to learn the error of their ways.

zahlman 1y ago
Please stop replying to me. In previous exchanges you have repeatedly tried to tell me what I actually believe, contra my own explicit statements. I don't tolerate that. I also am not a believer, so I do not care what you think God thinks. I do not deny in any way Kirk's opponents the right to perceive their interactions as they like, just as Kirk had the right to perceive them as he did. It's completely irrelevant to my point, and comes across as argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  > In previous exchanges you have repeatedly tried to tell me what I actually believe I have not. I have described your statements and I have done so accurately. If you think I am wrong, you are more than welcome to refute my descriptions. > I do not deny in any way Kirk's opponents the right to perceive their interactions as they like I did not claim that you denied this, I was explaining my perspective. It is disrespectful for one to justify their belief that these people will suffer eternally in the afterlife when the subjects say that it is an unkind thing to believe. > It's completely irrelevant to my point It is not irrelevant to your point. Your point is that Kirk and those who think like him genuinely believe that they are being kind. My point is that they should be able to see that they are not being kind. That is obviously relevant to your point. > argumentative for the sake of being argumentative I believe that it is worth my time to correct your statements, nothing more. > Please stop replying to me. It seems that you do not like what I say so you request that I censor myself. That will not happen. I will do my best to remain civil but if I see something I would like to reply to, then I will reply to it. You are free to ignore what I write in response to your comments.

zahlman 1y ago

Please stop replying to me. In previous exchanges you have repeatedly tried to tell me what I actually believe, contra my own explicit statements. I don't tolerate that. I also am not a believer, so I do not care what you think God thinks. I do not deny in any way Kirk's opponents the right to perceive their interactions as they like, just as Kirk had the right to perceive them as he did. It's completely irrelevant to my point, and comes across as argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
> In previous exchanges you have repeatedly tried to tell me what I actually believe I have not. I have described your statements and I have done so accurately. If you think I am wrong, you are more than welcome to refute my descriptions. > I do not deny in any way Kirk's opponents the right to perceive their interactions as they like I did not claim that you denied this, I was explaining my perspective. It is disrespectful for one to justify their belief that these people will suffer eternally in the afterlife when the subjects say that it is an unkind thing to believe. > It's completely irrelevant to my point It is not irrelevant to your point. Your point is that Kirk and those who think like him genuinely believe that they are being kind. My point is that they should be able to see that they are not being kind. That is obviously relevant to your point. > argumentative for the sake of being argumentative I believe that it is worth my time to correct your statements, nothing more. > Please stop replying to me. It seems that you do not like what I say so you request that I censor myself. That will not happen. I will do my best to remain civil but if I see something I would like to reply to, then I will reply to it. You are free to ignore what I write in response to your comments.