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> I wish we had stricter regulations By now HN should have a bot to automatically post the above quote in every new thread created, because someone will always

> I wish we had stricter regulations By now HN should have a bot to automatically post the above quote in every new thread created, because someone will always make that comment. There are very quiet places you can move to, so quiet that you can hear your own blood vessels.

foobarchu 1y ago
Dealing with a constant level of background noise should not be a mandatory fee to participate in society, particularly when there are very clear ways to drastically reduce that background noise (examples already listed in this thread). "Just move" is never a good suggestion when someone has real grievances with how their society is working.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  In cities - where we have a great number of other people around us - we have to accept the noise level which the majority deems tolerable. Most of the noise is from buses and lorries, which we cannot take away unless we want to make life impossible in the cities. But nobody disagrees that excessive noise is intolerable, such as modified motorcycle exhausts, loud parties in a residential building etc. So I think in this case "just move" is appropriate advice. Or are you going to kick the asses of each and every person who lives in your city until you get your will through?
brokenmachine 1y ago
Yet you participate in society! Curious.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  One persons "improvement of society" may be the opposite for another person. And if you share a small space (a city) with a lot of other people, you have to take that into account. Our physical world isn't the Arch Linux terminal, where a hacker is omnipotent and everything bends to his will. We have to take other people into consideration. And then the goal of reducing noise levels start to interfere with other important things, such as public transport, goods delivery, the ability for people to work, etc.
  - brokenmachine 1y ago
    Yeah, people can just be dickheads too. There seems to be zero consequence for ruining the environment currently. If you're happy with that, you do you. I'd rather if something was done about the "elective" noises that we have around, like ridiculously loud leaf blowers, pointlessly loud motorbikes and cars, etc. I don't think it's fair to say, "just uproot your entire life and move somewhere else" because people are being dickheads.

foobarchu 1y ago

Dealing with a constant level of background noise should not be a mandatory fee to participate in society, particularly when there are very clear ways to drastically reduce that background noise (examples already listed in this thread). "Just move" is never a good suggestion when someone has real grievances with how their society is working.

carlosjobim 1y ago
In cities - where we have a great number of other people around us - we have to accept the noise level which the majority deems tolerable. Most of the noise is from buses and lorries, which we cannot take away unless we want to make life impossible in the cities. But nobody disagrees that excessive noise is intolerable, such as modified motorcycle exhausts, loud parties in a residential building etc. So I think in this case "just move" is appropriate advice. Or are you going to kick the asses of each and every person who lives in your city until you get your will through?

brokenmachine 1y ago

Yet you participate in society! Curious.

carlosjobim 1y ago
One persons "improvement of society" may be the opposite for another person. And if you share a small space (a city) with a lot of other people, you have to take that into account. Our physical world isn't the Arch Linux terminal, where a hacker is omnipotent and everything bends to his will. We have to take other people into consideration. And then the goal of reducing noise levels start to interfere with other important things, such as public transport, goods delivery, the ability for people to work, etc.
- brokenmachine 1y ago
  Yeah, people can just be dickheads too. There seems to be zero consequence for ruining the environment currently. If you're happy with that, you do you. I'd rather if something was done about the "elective" noises that we have around, like ridiculously loud leaf blowers, pointlessly loud motorbikes and cars, etc. I don't think it's fair to say, "just uproot your entire life and move somewhere else" because people are being dickheads.