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Could it be the recommendation algorithm is so terrible that people can't even? Mine is just a sewage firehose so yes, I watch less now, and I use NewPipe on m

Could it be the recommendation algorithm is so terrible that people can't even? Mine is just a sewage firehose so yes, I watch less now, and I use NewPipe on mobile to have a chance to see my subscriptions.

portaouflop 1y ago
As noted above my recommendations are excellent and a source of great joy. I don’t get how other people have such an inverse experience
- Measter 1y ago
  Here's my experience of recommendations right now: videos I've already seen, videos on topics I have no interest in, or a completely empty page.
2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago
The trending page is usually so decadent and tasteless that I'm ashamed.
- bluSCALE4 1y ago
  Log out and you’ll be even more ashamed.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - hightrix 1y ago
    Turn off Watch History and enjoy bliss.
    - bluSCALE4 1y ago
      Yep! I actually mentioned this as well. I did it recently and though I miss some of the recommendations, I can't say I miss them that much.
- qilo 1y ago
  Trending page[0] is gone for non logged-in users as of couple months now. (No idea if it's still up for logged-in users) As a result my YouTube consumption went down (not complaining). https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending
the_af 1y ago
I wonder about this. I'm not discounting your experience, but my YouTube recommendation page is great. I only see my subscriptions, or things directly related to things I've watched and liked. If I remove a disliked video from my watch history, it "mostly" works to tell YouTube I don't want to see it anymore. I very seldom see crap I really do not want in my YouTube feed/recommendations. All I see are hobby videos and cartoon clips of things I like. This is totally unlike Facebook (where random garbage recommendations are the norm) or Reddit (which is hit or miss).
- SoftTalker 1y ago
  My recommendations are generally aligned with my interests as derived from my view history, likes, and subscriptions. But more and more of it is AI-generated or videos copied from the original creator and reposted by someone else. I try to use "don't show me videos fron this channel" on those but more and more just appears. I think there must be bots creating new channels and copying/generating content faster than I can block them. And please, let me opt out of Shorts permanently. I keep telling them I don't want shorts but they always come back. I pay for a Premium account, so they should resepect my wishes on this.
  - the_af 1y ago
    Agreed on Shorts. I don't understand why YT is pushing so hard on those, they are never going to be TikTok and I repeatedly signal I don't want to see them.
- vorpalhex 1y ago
  I did an experiment where I really invested in my YouTube suggestions, and you can definitely groom your recommendations, and then they can be pretty good. But then you have an issue where you get into a new hobby or a new interest, and so you watch some videos attributed to that, your recommendations spiral back out of control. So you can do a whole bunch of grooming work, but probably they just go back to being like 80% wrong. I got vaguely interested in the piano, and now 80% of my recommendations are music related, but not actually things I care about, and they've just gone back to being total trash.
crazygringo 1y ago
It's based on what you watch. My recommendations are entirely in line with what I watch. I never need to check channels i like for a new video because they automatically get recommended. If yours is a sewage firehouse, are you logged in? Or are you sharing your account with family members who watch what you consider "sewage"?
- Telaneo 1y ago
  Mine's still stuck on recommending me culvert uncloging videos after I watched one way back. I switched to Freetube and imported my subscriptions, and that made things much better, since now I can't even accidentally see what my recommended videos would be.
yard2010 1y ago
I couldn't stand the shorts nonsense. I don't want to consume this kind of media, why force it down my throat.

portaouflop 1y ago

As noted above my recommendations are excellent and a source of great joy. I don’t get how other people have such an inverse experience

Measter 1y ago
Here's my experience of recommendations right now: videos I've already seen, videos on topics I have no interest in, or a completely empty page.

2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago

The trending page is usually so decadent and tasteless that I'm ashamed.

bluSCALE4 1y ago
Log out and you’ll be even more ashamed.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- hightrix 1y ago
  Turn off Watch History and enjoy bliss.
  - bluSCALE4 1y ago
    Yep! I actually mentioned this as well. I did it recently and though I miss some of the recommendations, I can't say I miss them that much.
qilo 1y ago
Trending page[0] is gone for non logged-in users as of couple months now. (No idea if it's still up for logged-in users) As a result my YouTube consumption went down (not complaining). https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending

the_af 1y ago

I wonder about this. I'm not discounting your experience, but my YouTube recommendation page is great. I only see my subscriptions, or things directly related to things I've watched and liked. If I remove a disliked video from my watch history, it "mostly" works to tell YouTube I don't want to see it anymore. I very seldom see crap I really do not want in my YouTube feed/recommendations. All I see are hobby videos and cartoon clips of things I like. This is totally unlike Facebook (where random garbage recommendations are the norm) or Reddit (which is hit or miss).

SoftTalker 1y ago
My recommendations are generally aligned with my interests as derived from my view history, likes, and subscriptions. But more and more of it is AI-generated or videos copied from the original creator and reposted by someone else. I try to use "don't show me videos fron this channel" on those but more and more just appears. I think there must be bots creating new channels and copying/generating content faster than I can block them. And please, let me opt out of Shorts permanently. I keep telling them I don't want shorts but they always come back. I pay for a Premium account, so they should resepect my wishes on this.
- the_af 1y ago
  Agreed on Shorts. I don't understand why YT is pushing so hard on those, they are never going to be TikTok and I repeatedly signal I don't want to see them.
vorpalhex 1y ago
I did an experiment where I really invested in my YouTube suggestions, and you can definitely groom your recommendations, and then they can be pretty good. But then you have an issue where you get into a new hobby or a new interest, and so you watch some videos attributed to that, your recommendations spiral back out of control. So you can do a whole bunch of grooming work, but probably they just go back to being like 80% wrong. I got vaguely interested in the piano, and now 80% of my recommendations are music related, but not actually things I care about, and they've just gone back to being total trash.

crazygringo 1y ago

It's based on what you watch. My recommendations are entirely in line with what I watch. I never need to check channels i like for a new video because they automatically get recommended. If yours is a sewage firehouse, are you logged in? Or are you sharing your account with family members who watch what you consider "sewage"?

Telaneo 1y ago
Mine's still stuck on recommending me culvert uncloging videos after I watched one way back. I switched to Freetube and imported my subscriptions, and that made things much better, since now I can't even accidentally see what my recommended videos would be.

yard2010 1y ago

I couldn't stand the shorts nonsense. I don't want to consume this kind of media, why force it down my throat.