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I think the result of a referendum that would pose a question "Do you want law enforcement to be allowed access to your private messages when investigating chi
by izacus 1y ago
I think the result of a referendum that would pose a question
"Do you want law enforcement to be allowed access to your private messages when investigating child molesters or would you like to listen to folks who put furry teen girls in front of their websites?"
would have results that you certanly wouldn't like. And they'd be democratic.
So perhaps before calling something undemocratic, first make sure that the majority of voters actually agree with you.
- rollcat 1y agoPhrasing the question is half the battle. "Do you want to be spied on by your government?" Yes is yes, no is no, anything more comes from evil.
- izacus 1y agoYes, that's exactly my point - it's important to understand the issue and the messaging about it. Government "spies" on you for many many things and I think HN "all government is evil" panic isn't really reflected in outlook of EU citizens and won't be looked upon positively by public at large. So again, be careful what you're calling "undemocratic" because that's not the same as "different from my opinion".
- rollcat 1y agoIs it still democratic if the elected representatives are trying to subvert democracy?
- izacus 1y agoWhat are you talking about here exactly?
- tracker1 1y agoSince being on the wrong side of supporting The Patriot Act in the US... I'm pretty firmly on the side of, if the government has a power that can be abused, it's only a matter of time until it is abused and in creative ways you never expected. I'm generally against all reactionist legislation as an instance "no" stance as well.
- moltopoco 1y agoThe results of this past survey are not quite as gloomy: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/poll-72-of-citizens-oppose-eu-plans-to-search-all-private-messages-for-allegedly-illegal-material-and-report-to-the-police/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/poll-72-of-citizens-oppose-...