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What are the implications? Israel isn't going to align with Russia or China, so probably they'll have to stand on their own and rely more on their nuclear deter

by vasco 1y ago

What are the implications? Israel isn't going to align with Russia or China, so probably they'll have to stand on their own and rely more on their nuclear deterrent. It'd be easier if they weren't bombing every single neighbor they have though.

throwaway3060 1y ago
Russia and China would love to get their hands on Israeli tech. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
nebula8804 1y ago
Actually I think thats exactly the plan. They will milk the US as long as they can and once they have gotten everything they can from that dead corpse, they will do what any other nation would do: Align themselves with whatever partner that can help them the most. They have a lot of talent and investment (thanks to the US) and can offer other future superpowers plenty in exchange for partnerships.
- vasco 1y ago
  Yeah I was just curious what the commenter thought because to me it's not obvious what would happen, there's many possibilities, what you listed is certainly plausible but it doesn't seem inevitable, depends on so much.
klipt 1y ago
> bombing every single neighbor they have The neighbors who signed peace treaties (Egypt, Jordan) seem to be maintaining peace fine. It's the ones who've refused to normalize relations since 1949 and keep launching rockets over the border at civilians who get hit back.
- LorenPechtel 1y ago
  Exactly. Israel isn't exactly the nicest country but they're a porcupine. You leave them alone, they leave you alone. You keep poking them, you get hammered. And, yes, the settlers are not a good thing--but the problem exists because the government knows they are not the actual cause of the problem, Israel would gain nothing from curtailing them. And note that the violence is wildly misreported, much of it is defensive in nature (look at how often you see one person get shot who is facing the settlers when supposedly they were fleeing--awfully hard to shoot a fleeing person in the front) and plenty of it is purely fake.

by vasco 1y ago

throwaway3060 1y ago

Russia and China would love to get their hands on Israeli tech. Nothing happens in a vacuum.

nebula8804 1y ago

Actually I think thats exactly the plan. They will milk the US as long as they can and once they have gotten everything they can from that dead corpse, they will do what any other nation would do: Align themselves with whatever partner that can help them the most. They have a lot of talent and investment (thanks to the US) and can offer other future superpowers plenty in exchange for partnerships.

vasco 1y ago
Yeah I was just curious what the commenter thought because to me it's not obvious what would happen, there's many possibilities, what you listed is certainly plausible but it doesn't seem inevitable, depends on so much.

klipt 1y ago

> bombing every single neighbor they have The neighbors who signed peace treaties (Egypt, Jordan) seem to be maintaining peace fine. It's the ones who've refused to normalize relations since 1949 and keep launching rockets over the border at civilians who get hit back.

LorenPechtel 1y ago
Exactly. Israel isn't exactly the nicest country but they're a porcupine. You leave them alone, they leave you alone. You keep poking them, you get hammered. And, yes, the settlers are not a good thing--but the problem exists because the government knows they are not the actual cause of the problem, Israel would gain nothing from curtailing them. And note that the violence is wildly misreported, much of it is defensive in nature (look at how often you see one person get shot who is facing the settlers when supposedly they were fleeing--awfully hard to shoot a fleeing person in the front) and plenty of it is purely fake.