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Literally unplayable, someone should fix that. Doom is actually such a good game, I always go back to it every few years. The 2016 reboot is also pretty fun, b

Literally unplayable, someone should fix that. Doom is actually such a good game, I always go back to it every few years. The 2016 reboot is also pretty fun, but the later two in the series didn’t do it for me.

xmonkee 1y ago
Same. And love those brutality mods.
bitwize 1y ago
Fun fact: Doom is now a Microsoft property, along with Quake, StarCraft, WarCraft, Overwatch, all of the adventure games from Infocom and Sierra, and of course Halo. Microsoft pretty much owns most of PC gaming. Which is what they've wanted since 1996 or so.
- nurettin 1y ago
  > Microsoft pretty much owns most of PC gaming. So valve next?
  - tomwojcik 1y ago
    As long as Gabe is alive, no way.
    - HeckFeck 1y ago
      We must find a way to extend his life indefinitely.
    - account42 1y ago
      *in control of Valve Old age can make him give that up before death.
  - Lightkey 1y ago
    They missed that window when Sierra was still the publisher for Half-Life. Besides, Valve is not a publicly traded company and Gabe Newell as former manager at Microsoft has no interest in getting back together. Valve is betting everything on Linux right now to be more independent from Microsoft.
    - lukan 1y ago
      "Valve is betting everything on Linux right now" Not everything, but they do invest in it.
    - simoncion 1y ago
      > Valve is betting everything on Linux right now... They've been working on Linux support since at least around the time that Microsoft introduced the Windows Store... so for the last twelve years or so. And, man, a couple of months ago I figured out how to run Steam as a separate user on my Xorg system. Not-at-all-coincidentally, I haven't booted into Windows in a couple of months. Not every game runs [0], but nearly every game in my library does. I'm really gladdened by the effort put in to making this work. [0] Aside from the obvious ones with worryingly-intrusive kernel-level anticheat, sometimes there are weird failures like Highfleet just detonating on startup.
      - Insanity 1y ago
        I used to game on Linux back in the late 2000s through Wine. And I always found the mouse support to be jarring, even if I could get support to a decent level, for some reason the mouse input was never quite as fluid as it should have been. And now I'm reluctant to move back to Linux for gaming, even though they've clearly come so far. I guess I should just go ahead and give it another shot.
        jerf 1y ago
        It has come lightyears. ProtonDB has a feature where you can give it access to your Steam account for reading and it'll give you a full report based on your personal library: https://www.protondb.com/profile https://www.protondb.com/profile And I find if anything it tends to the conservative. I've encountered a few things where it was overoptimistic but its outweighed by the stuff that was supported even better than ProtonDB said. In the late 2000s, I played a few things, but I went in with the assumption it either wouldn't work, or wouldn't work without tweaking. Now I go in with the assumption that it will work unless otherwise indicated. Except multiplayer shooters and VR.
- kodarna 1y ago
  They own the past of PC gaming, as well as Call of Duty but that is more popular on consoles than PC nowadays. Those listed are small time compared to Counter-Strike 2, Dota 2, League of Legends, Valorant, Roblox, Apex Legends, Marvel Rivals and a number of hard-hitting games every year such as Witcher 3, Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3 etc.
  - account42 1y ago
    So in other words the own the part of PC gaming that's actually good.
    - jama211 1y ago
      You’re saying the Witcher 3 and games like it are bad?
- Novosell 1y ago
  They own Minecraft as well.
shpongled 1y ago
2016 remains one the greatest single player FPS games I've played (Titan Fall 2 is the other)
jama211 1y ago
Same. Something about the metroidvania design with the home hub of the later ones didn’t give the same feeling. It should be run, kill, find secrets, end, next level.
- jeffwask 1y ago
  I just finished Robocop: Rogue City and it was exactly this a linear level by level shooter that felt like a pure Robocop power fantasy movie. I played new game plus it was so much fun and I never do that. It's like the game industry got a fake memo saying no one wanted linear story-based games anymore. I ended up buying two more Teyon games because I was so happy with their formula and they are playable in a dozen or so hours. Tight, compact, linear, fun story and game play... No MTX or always online BS and they don't waste my time with busy work.
  - jama211 1y ago
    Ooh, I’ll have to give this a try, thank you!
- Insanity 1y ago
  This is exactly how I want my FPS games to be. Just linear, run & gun. TBH, I can even do without weapon upgrades or any "RPG" style elements. It's even worse in multiplayer games like COD and BF. As soon as I need to figure out combinations of 5x attachments to guns I lose all my interest in playing the game. That's why I'm still on CS I guess lol.
- bombela 1y ago
  The latest DOOM: Dark Ages ditched the home hub. I think it's a really great DOOM game.
  - Insanity 1y ago
    I was quite excited for it, despite not enjoying Eternal as much. But after about ~2 hours of playing it, I lost interest. I'm happy you're enjoying it, sadly it didn't click for me. Especially the 'mech scale' stuff was just boring. I don't remember what they call it in-universe, but essentially the parts of the game where you're playing from a giant robot and just walking over tanks and fighting supersized demons.
jjbinx007 1y ago
This caters for people who prefer the classic Doom style of gameplay in FPS games: https://www.reddit.com/r/boomershooters/ https://www.reddit.com/r/boomershooters/
- Insanity 1y ago
  Ahh yes, I'm quite happy that a few years ago this has become a trend!
pizza234 1y ago
I'm under the impression that since Doom Eternal (the first after Doom 2016), the gameplay has considerably shifted to an "interconnected arenas" style, and with more sophisticated combat mechanics. Many games have started adopting this design, for example, Shadow Warrior 3. I also dislike this trend. As a sibling comment noted, boomer shooters are generally closer to the old-school Doom gameplay, although some are adopting the newer design too.
- billyp-rva 1y ago
  The enemy cap all but forces the arena style gameplay. Doom 2016 tried to hide it more, but it still felt very stifling.

xmonkee 1y ago

Same. And love those brutality mods.

bitwize 1y ago

Fun fact: Doom is now a Microsoft property, along with Quake, StarCraft, WarCraft, Overwatch, all of the adventure games from Infocom and Sierra, and of course Halo. Microsoft pretty much owns most of PC gaming. Which is what they've wanted since 1996 or so.

nurettin 1y ago
> Microsoft pretty much owns most of PC gaming. So valve next?
- tomwojcik 1y ago
  As long as Gabe is alive, no way.
  - HeckFeck 1y ago
    We must find a way to extend his life indefinitely.
  - account42 1y ago
    *in control of Valve Old age can make him give that up before death.
- Lightkey 1y ago
  They missed that window when Sierra was still the publisher for Half-Life. Besides, Valve is not a publicly traded company and Gabe Newell as former manager at Microsoft has no interest in getting back together. Valve is betting everything on Linux right now to be more independent from Microsoft.
  - lukan 1y ago
    "Valve is betting everything on Linux right now" Not everything, but they do invest in it.
  - simoncion 1y ago
    > Valve is betting everything on Linux right now... They've been working on Linux support since at least around the time that Microsoft introduced the Windows Store... so for the last twelve years or so. And, man, a couple of months ago I figured out how to run Steam as a separate user on my Xorg system. Not-at-all-coincidentally, I haven't booted into Windows in a couple of months. Not every game runs [0], but nearly every game in my library does. I'm really gladdened by the effort put in to making this work. [0] Aside from the obvious ones with worryingly-intrusive kernel-level anticheat, sometimes there are weird failures like Highfleet just detonating on startup.
    - Insanity 1y ago
      I used to game on Linux back in the late 2000s through Wine. And I always found the mouse support to be jarring, even if I could get support to a decent level, for some reason the mouse input was never quite as fluid as it should have been. And now I'm reluctant to move back to Linux for gaming, even though they've clearly come so far. I guess I should just go ahead and give it another shot.
      - jerf 1y ago
        It has come lightyears. ProtonDB has a feature where you can give it access to your Steam account for reading and it'll give you a full report based on your personal library: https://www.protondb.com/profile https://www.protondb.com/profile And I find if anything it tends to the conservative. I've encountered a few things where it was overoptimistic but its outweighed by the stuff that was supported even better than ProtonDB said. In the late 2000s, I played a few things, but I went in with the assumption it either wouldn't work, or wouldn't work without tweaking. Now I go in with the assumption that it will work unless otherwise indicated. Except multiplayer shooters and VR.
kodarna 1y ago
They own the past of PC gaming, as well as Call of Duty but that is more popular on consoles than PC nowadays. Those listed are small time compared to Counter-Strike 2, Dota 2, League of Legends, Valorant, Roblox, Apex Legends, Marvel Rivals and a number of hard-hitting games every year such as Witcher 3, Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3 etc.
- account42 1y ago
  So in other words the own the part of PC gaming that's actually good.
  - jama211 1y ago
    You’re saying the Witcher 3 and games like it are bad?
Novosell 1y ago
They own Minecraft as well.

shpongled 1y ago

2016 remains one the greatest single player FPS games I've played (Titan Fall 2 is the other)

jama211 1y ago

Same. Something about the metroidvania design with the home hub of the later ones didn’t give the same feeling. It should be run, kill, find secrets, end, next level.

jeffwask 1y ago
I just finished Robocop: Rogue City and it was exactly this a linear level by level shooter that felt like a pure Robocop power fantasy movie. I played new game plus it was so much fun and I never do that. It's like the game industry got a fake memo saying no one wanted linear story-based games anymore. I ended up buying two more Teyon games because I was so happy with their formula and they are playable in a dozen or so hours. Tight, compact, linear, fun story and game play... No MTX or always online BS and they don't waste my time with busy work.
- jama211 1y ago
  Ooh, I’ll have to give this a try, thank you!
Insanity 1y ago
This is exactly how I want my FPS games to be. Just linear, run & gun. TBH, I can even do without weapon upgrades or any "RPG" style elements. It's even worse in multiplayer games like COD and BF. As soon as I need to figure out combinations of 5x attachments to guns I lose all my interest in playing the game. That's why I'm still on CS I guess lol.
bombela 1y ago
The latest DOOM: Dark Ages ditched the home hub. I think it's a really great DOOM game.
- Insanity 1y ago
  I was quite excited for it, despite not enjoying Eternal as much. But after about ~2 hours of playing it, I lost interest. I'm happy you're enjoying it, sadly it didn't click for me. Especially the 'mech scale' stuff was just boring. I don't remember what they call it in-universe, but essentially the parts of the game where you're playing from a giant robot and just walking over tanks and fighting supersized demons.

jjbinx007 1y ago

This caters for people who prefer the classic Doom style of gameplay in FPS games: https://www.reddit.com/r/boomershooters/ https://www.reddit.com/r/boomershooters/

Insanity 1y ago
Ahh yes, I'm quite happy that a few years ago this has become a trend!

pizza234 1y ago

I'm under the impression that since Doom Eternal (the first after Doom 2016), the gameplay has considerably shifted to an "interconnected arenas" style, and with more sophisticated combat mechanics. Many games have started adopting this design, for example, Shadow Warrior 3. I also dislike this trend. As a sibling comment noted, boomer shooters are generally closer to the old-school Doom gameplay, although some are adopting the newer design too.

billyp-rva 1y ago
The enemy cap all but forces the arena style gameplay. Doom 2016 tried to hide it more, but it still felt very stifling.