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I feel like parent probably meant Paul Graham. Garry holds polar opposite opinions (he blocked me on X because he had had made claims about what Intifada means,

I feel like parent probably meant Paul Graham. Garry holds polar opposite opinions (he blocked me on X because he had had made claims about what Intifada means, and as an Arabic speaker I felt compelled to point out the correct meaning). In any case, I don't think Paul or Garry are interfering with the algorithm or moderation here.

decayiscreation 1y ago
Yep, I meant pg
hirvi74 1y ago
What does the word Intifada actually mean? You have piqued my interest now.
- dotancohen 1y ago
  I believe that it means "a shaking" as in "to shake off". But Arabic is not my first language (nor my second, it's number 4).
  - adastra22 1y ago
    Not a speaker either, but I understand “uprising” to be a better translation.
    - dotancohen 1y ago
      Well yes, a shaking off would be an uprising. But the root of the word is literally the verb "to shake". I'll give you another one you might like. The root of the word Shahid in Arabic is "witness". This is another term that Western media likes to use incorrectly.
- sir0010010 1y ago
  What do the word Führer mean? Foreign words used in English can be more specific than how they are used in their source language. Especially when they are used as proper nouns (capitalized) like "The [Second] Intifada".
  - hirvi74 1y ago
    Yes, that is why I am asking.
antonvs 1y ago
The problem with the meaning of “intifada” is that in the US at least, and some other English-speaking countries, it has strong connotations of violence and terrorism dating at least to the 2nd Intifada. The “correct meaning” then becomes somewhat beside the point. Further, if someone in the US uses that term, when speaking in English, it raises a question of which sense they mean it in. There’s no doubt that this is then used as a weapon against people like Mamdani for having used phrases such as “globalize the intifada.” But that’s going to be an uphill battle to “correct”, because you’re dealing with people who are already biased, are often unaware of their bias, and are interpreting things in a way that fits that bias.

decayiscreation 1y ago

Yep, I meant pg

hirvi74 1y ago

What does the word Intifada actually mean? You have piqued my interest now.

dotancohen 1y ago
I believe that it means "a shaking" as in "to shake off". But Arabic is not my first language (nor my second, it's number 4).
- adastra22 1y ago
  Not a speaker either, but I understand “uprising” to be a better translation.
  - dotancohen 1y ago
    Well yes, a shaking off would be an uprising. But the root of the word is literally the verb "to shake". I'll give you another one you might like. The root of the word Shahid in Arabic is "witness". This is another term that Western media likes to use incorrectly.
sir0010010 1y ago
What do the word Führer mean? Foreign words used in English can be more specific than how they are used in their source language. Especially when they are used as proper nouns (capitalized) like "The [Second] Intifada".
- hirvi74 1y ago
  Yes, that is why I am asking.

antonvs 1y ago

The problem with the meaning of “intifada” is that in the US at least, and some other English-speaking countries, it has strong connotations of violence and terrorism dating at least to the 2nd Intifada. The “correct meaning” then becomes somewhat beside the point. Further, if someone in the US uses that term, when speaking in English, it raises a question of which sense they mean it in. There’s no doubt that this is then used as a weapon against people like Mamdani for having used phrases such as “globalize the intifada.” But that’s going to be an uphill battle to “correct”, because you’re dealing with people who are already biased, are often unaware of their bias, and are interpreting things in a way that fits that bias.