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The wonders of propaganda make it so that "Ukrainians bombed it" is given as an irrefutable fact, and not something that needs a lot of evidence. Nobody rememb
by AndriyKunitsyn 1y ago
The wonders of propaganda make it so that "Ukrainians bombed it" is given as an irrefutable fact, and not something that needs a lot of evidence.
Nobody remembers anymore that Pres. Biden himself said, “If Russia invades ... there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” [°] Nor that the very next day, a EU parliament member, and now Polish foreign minister Radosław Sikorski thanked the US for the sabotage [^]. Nor that the same day, a competing natural gas pipeline has opened, the Baltic Pipe [_].
None of this matters, because "Ukrainians bombed it". Because WaPo and WSJ said so. In a waterway that is heavily controlled by all kinds of NATO vessels. Where NATO had an exercise 3 months before that, called BALTOPS. Come on.
[°] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8
[^] https://archive.ph/20220927190022/https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/status/1574800653724966915 https://archive.ph/20220927190022/https://twitter.com/radeks...
[_] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe
- lossolo 1y agoIt's not only WaPo and WJS but investigations in Sweden and Germany. Read the reports. "Nord Stream sabotage: Berlin issues arrest warrant for Ukrainian man" https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/08/14/nord-stream-sabotage-berlin-issues-arrest-warrant-for-ukrainian-man_6715234_4.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/08/14/n... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-known-about-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-explosions-2025-08-21 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-known-about-nor...
- AndriyKunitsyn 1y agoIs there at least one piece of evidence in these reports?
- urspx 1y agoYes. If you're curious and willing to spend ca. half an hour on the question, I can recommend this excellently done video from the channel 'fern': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHsONupIdlo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHsONupIdlo
- sharpshadow 1y agoAnd let’s not forget the crazy analysis of Dr. Braun.[0] 0. https://hansbenjaminbraun.ch/nordstream.html https://hansbenjaminbraun.ch/nordstream.html