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While I generally agree with you, I have two specific issues with what you say here: > People who call employers don't actually have power over those employers

While I generally agree with you, I have two specific issues with what you say here: > People who call employers don't actually have power over those employers, never mind their employees. The employer gets to make the decision, and it's fair that employers should know if their employees are tarnishing the company's image. Who do you think is doing the calling? If Vance is saying this, is it going to be the government doing the calling? Well, I work for a government contractor. That might be a bit more than just "more speech". > Of course he acted alone. It was an assassination using a rifle from a distance. How could anyone else have possibly been involved, even in principle? Someone could have supplied him the rifle, the position, and/or the idea/motivation. More than one finger could not pull the trigger, but that doesn't mean he was alone in planning it. It doesn't even mean that he was alone at the place where he fired the shot. But I agree with you in general. If there was a conspiracy, it was a small one. It wasn't the Democratic Party, or the DNC, or the Utah Democratic Party, or anything of that scale. All the more reason why a broad crackdown is inappropriate. To the degree that Vance is serious, he's barking up the wrong tree.

zahlman 1y ago
> Who do you think is doing the calling? Vance proposing "Call them out, and hell, call their employer" stands completely separate from anything that he may or may not have the government do. This is a call to action to ordinary people. > All the more reason why a broad crackdown is inappropriate. To the degree that Vance is serious, he's barking up the wrong tree. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy here. Clearly the belief of Trump, Vance etc. is that there are agitators out there (someone else showed me a source implying that this is specifically about "antifa", which isn't exactly an NGO with a contact address, but black bloc tactics are a thing) who would like for more such incidents to occur, and that by "cracking down" in whatever vague unspecified form they could prevent this. And it certainly doesn't appear that the groups they have in mind are anything like "the DNC".

zahlman 1y ago

> Who do you think is doing the calling? Vance proposing "Call them out, and hell, call their employer" stands completely separate from anything that he may or may not have the government do. This is a call to action to ordinary people. > All the more reason why a broad crackdown is inappropriate. To the degree that Vance is serious, he's barking up the wrong tree. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy here. Clearly the belief of Trump, Vance etc. is that there are agitators out there (someone else showed me a source implying that this is specifically about "antifa", which isn't exactly an NGO with a contact address, but black bloc tactics are a thing) who would like for more such incidents to occur, and that by "cracking down" in whatever vague unspecified form they could prevent this. And it certainly doesn't appear that the groups they have in mind are anything like "the DNC".