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Your typical Rust project does not have over 1000 dependencies. Zed is not a typical Rust project; it's a full fledged editor that includes a significant array

Your typical Rust project does not have over 1000 dependencies. Zed is not a typical Rust project; it's a full fledged editor that includes a significant array of features and its own homegrown UI framework.

worik 1y ago
What is a "typical Rust project", I wonder?
- cesarb 1y ago
  One famous example is ripgrep (https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep). Its Cargo.lock (which contains all direct and indirect dependencies) lists 65 dependencies (it has 66 entries, but one of them is for itself).
  - burntsushi 1y ago
    Also, that lock file includes development dependencies and dependencies for opt-in features like PCRE2. A normal `cargo build` will use quite a bit fewer than 65 dependencies. I would actually say ripgrep is not especially typical here. I put a lot of energy into keeping my dependency tree slim. Many Rust applications have hundreds of dependencies. We aren't quite at thousands of dependencies yet though.
    - johnisgood 1y ago
      > I would actually say ripgrep is not especially typical here. I put a lot of energy into keeping my dependency tree slim. Many Rust applications have hundreds of dependencies. Thank you for your honesty, and like you and I said, you put a lot of energy into keeping the dependency tree slim. This is not as common as one would like to believe.
      - burntsushi 1y ago
        I agree it's not common. But neither are Rust applications with 1000+ dependencies. I don't think I've ever compiled a Rust project with over 1,000 dependencies. Hundreds? Yes, absolutely. That's common.
        johnisgood 1y ago
        Maybe I am just unlucky enough to always running into Rust projects that pull in over 1000 dependencies. :D In retrospect, I should have kept a list of these projects. I probably have not deleted these directories though, so I probably still could make a list of some of these projects.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    Not quite. He is a better developer than most who happen to minimize dependencies, but according to my experiences it is not as common as you would like to believe. Do I really need to make a list of all the Rust projects I have compiled that pulled in over 1000 dependencies? If I need to do it to convince you, I will do so, as my time allows.
wolvesechoes 1y ago
> Zed is not a typical Rust project; it's a full fledged editor Funny that text editor is being presented here as some kind of behemoth, not representative of typical software written in Rust. I guess typical would be 1234th JSON serialization library.

worik 1y ago

What is a "typical Rust project", I wonder?

cesarb 1y ago
One famous example is ripgrep (https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep). Its Cargo.lock (which contains all direct and indirect dependencies) lists 65 dependencies (it has 66 entries, but one of them is for itself).
- burntsushi 1y ago
  Also, that lock file includes development dependencies and dependencies for opt-in features like PCRE2. A normal `cargo build` will use quite a bit fewer than 65 dependencies. I would actually say ripgrep is not especially typical here. I put a lot of energy into keeping my dependency tree slim. Many Rust applications have hundreds of dependencies. We aren't quite at thousands of dependencies yet though.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    > I would actually say ripgrep is not especially typical here. I put a lot of energy into keeping my dependency tree slim. Many Rust applications have hundreds of dependencies. Thank you for your honesty, and like you and I said, you put a lot of energy into keeping the dependency tree slim. This is not as common as one would like to believe.
    - burntsushi 1y ago
      I agree it's not common. But neither are Rust applications with 1000+ dependencies. I don't think I've ever compiled a Rust project with over 1,000 dependencies. Hundreds? Yes, absolutely. That's common.
      - johnisgood 1y ago
        Maybe I am just unlucky enough to always running into Rust projects that pull in over 1000 dependencies. :D In retrospect, I should have kept a list of these projects. I probably have not deleted these directories though, so I probably still could make a list of some of these projects.
- johnisgood 1y ago
  Not quite. He is a better developer than most who happen to minimize dependencies, but according to my experiences it is not as common as you would like to believe. Do I really need to make a list of all the Rust projects I have compiled that pulled in over 1000 dependencies? If I need to do it to convince you, I will do so, as my time allows.

wolvesechoes 1y ago

> Zed is not a typical Rust project; it's a full fledged editor Funny that text editor is being presented here as some kind of behemoth, not representative of typical software written in Rust. I guess typical would be 1234th JSON serialization library.