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UNRWA schoolbooks for you: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Education-Textbooks-and-Terror-Nov-2023.pdf https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/u

by tguvot 1y ago

UNRWA schoolbooks for you: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Education-Textbooks-and-Terror-Nov-2023.pdf https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Education... and first UN general assembly resolution condemning hamas attack is the one from the past week that speaks about recognition of palestinian state. unless you can find different one

xg15 1y ago
I can't refute all their findings, but it's still worth looking at the board of that org: https://www.impact-se.org/about-us/impact-se-board-members/ https://www.impact-se.org/about-us/impact-se-board-members/ For an organization ostensibly concerned with education to violence everywhere, that's a LOT of board members with direct connections to Israel. I also think it's common sense that if an occupying force deliberately ensures your living conditions become ever worse, shoots your friends and family to death for throwing stones and eventually obliterates entire families, that you don't exactly need textbooks to develop hatred. As for "from the Nile to the Euphrates", just ask Daniella Weiss: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-21/ty-article-magazine/.premium/at-the-prepare-to-resettle-gaza-conference-wishful-thinking-made-way-to-concrete-plans/00000192-b04a-daee-a9fb-fedaf2a60000?gift=1703ec9e227f45c8a495138e4f743839 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-21/ty-article-ma...
- tguvot 1y ago
  "i can't refute the facts so i will have to do character assassination". (i'll remind that those are books that are taught by UN agency) the atlantic article from 1961 about unrwa camps showing that they were taught back than liberation of entire area by force and destruction of israel https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/archives/1961/10/208-4/132561290.pdf https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/archives/1961/10/208-4/132... it's almost like if population is educated for violence for 50 years, it will behave violently and it will result in counter action from "occupying force" on the other side, Israeli population is been subjected to palestinian violence for extended period. Pretty much everybody was either target of it or lost somebody to it. Lets see what do we have in Israeli schoolbooks: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/Arabs-and-Palestinians-in-Israeli-Textbooks-2022%E2%80%9323-Special-Report.pdf https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/Arabs-and-Pales...
  - xg15 1y ago
    Yeah, they do that stuff in the pre-army courses instead. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-04/ty-article-opinion/.highlight/an-israeli-rabbis-troubling-advice-to-soldiers-feeling-guilty-about-gaza/00000199-15b4-da34-af99-3ff4ddae0000?gift=ad41cef3e9124f50a8c46a9ffc4b555f https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-04/ty-article-op... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-09/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/soon-no-liberal-will-be-able-to-live-in-israel-the-idf-has-already-fallen-to-messianism/00000198-7aad-d257-a1f9-feed29e80000?gift=aa40ce97e4fe4553a8835ecfe7577789 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-09/ty-article-ma...
    - tguvot 1y ago
      i am talking about systemic things in education system. not about random anecdotes. also good chunk of israeli population (and even bigger chunk of those serving in army) is secular and whatever random rabi says means nothing. but kudos on shifting goal posts.
runarberg 1y ago
United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/21 (Oct. 27th 2023): > Condemning all acts of violence aimed at Palestinian and Israeli civilians, including all acts of terrorism and indiscriminate attacks, as well as all acts of provocation, incitement and destruction https://docs.un.org/en/A/ES-10/L.25 https://docs.un.org/en/A/ES-10/L.25 The UN has been condemning the Hamas terrorist attacks from the start.
- tguvot 1y ago
  no condemnation of hamas attack. no mention of hamas. generic one that was mixed in into condemnation of israeli response.
  - runarberg 1y ago
    This resolution didn’t mention the IDF either, nor any other Zionist terror groups. Why do you want the UN to single out Hamas here? The wording was quite clear and it is easy for anybody reading this who they were referring to.
    - tguvot 1y ago
      obviously UN wouldn't like to single out hamas which just executed mass massacre which proudly livestreamed on internet. i wouldn't expect UN to care about it.
      - runarberg 1y ago
        This resolution came 20 days into what would eventually be known as the Gaza genocide. The IDF had enganged in dozens of massacres at this point. The number of Palestinian victims was already over 6x that of the Oct 7 massacres (7326 when the resolution was published). If the resolution was going to mention Hamas, it would also have to mention the IDF. The wording was deliberate for that reason.
        tguvot 1y ago

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xg15 1y ago

I can't refute all their findings, but it's still worth looking at the board of that org: https://www.impact-se.org/about-us/impact-se-board-members/ https://www.impact-se.org/about-us/impact-se-board-members/ For an organization ostensibly concerned with education to violence everywhere, that's a LOT of board members with direct connections to Israel. I also think it's common sense that if an occupying force deliberately ensures your living conditions become ever worse, shoots your friends and family to death for throwing stones and eventually obliterates entire families, that you don't exactly need textbooks to develop hatred. As for "from the Nile to the Euphrates", just ask Daniella Weiss: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-21/ty-article-magazine/.premium/at-the-prepare-to-resettle-gaza-conference-wishful-thinking-made-way-to-concrete-plans/00000192-b04a-daee-a9fb-fedaf2a60000?gift=1703ec9e227f45c8a495138e4f743839 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-21/ty-article-ma...

tguvot 1y ago
"i can't refute the facts so i will have to do character assassination". (i'll remind that those are books that are taught by UN agency) the atlantic article from 1961 about unrwa camps showing that they were taught back than liberation of entire area by force and destruction of israel https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/archives/1961/10/208-4/132561290.pdf https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/archives/1961/10/208-4/132... it's almost like if population is educated for violence for 50 years, it will behave violently and it will result in counter action from "occupying force" on the other side, Israeli population is been subjected to palestinian violence for extended period. Pretty much everybody was either target of it or lost somebody to it. Lets see what do we have in Israeli schoolbooks: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/Arabs-and-Palestinians-in-Israeli-Textbooks-2022%E2%80%9323-Special-Report.pdf https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/Arabs-and-Pales...
- xg15 1y ago
  Yeah, they do that stuff in the pre-army courses instead. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-04/ty-article-opinion/.highlight/an-israeli-rabbis-troubling-advice-to-soldiers-feeling-guilty-about-gaza/00000199-15b4-da34-af99-3ff4ddae0000?gift=ad41cef3e9124f50a8c46a9ffc4b555f https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-04/ty-article-op... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-09/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/soon-no-liberal-will-be-able-to-live-in-israel-the-idf-has-already-fallen-to-messianism/00000198-7aad-d257-a1f9-feed29e80000?gift=aa40ce97e4fe4553a8835ecfe7577789 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-09/ty-article-ma...
  - tguvot 1y ago
    i am talking about systemic things in education system. not about random anecdotes. also good chunk of israeli population (and even bigger chunk of those serving in army) is secular and whatever random rabi says means nothing. but kudos on shifting goal posts.

runarberg 1y ago

United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/21 (Oct. 27th 2023): > Condemning all acts of violence aimed at Palestinian and Israeli civilians, including all acts of terrorism and indiscriminate attacks, as well as all acts of provocation, incitement and destruction https://docs.un.org/en/A/ES-10/L.25 https://docs.un.org/en/A/ES-10/L.25 The UN has been condemning the Hamas terrorist attacks from the start.

tguvot 1y ago
no condemnation of hamas attack. no mention of hamas. generic one that was mixed in into condemnation of israeli response.
- runarberg 1y ago
  This resolution didn’t mention the IDF either, nor any other Zionist terror groups. Why do you want the UN to single out Hamas here? The wording was quite clear and it is easy for anybody reading this who they were referring to.
  - tguvot 1y ago
    obviously UN wouldn't like to single out hamas which just executed mass massacre which proudly livestreamed on internet. i wouldn't expect UN to care about it.
    - runarberg 1y ago
      This resolution came 20 days into what would eventually be known as the Gaza genocide. The IDF had enganged in dozens of massacres at this point. The number of Palestinian victims was already over 6x that of the Oct 7 massacres (7326 when the resolution was published). If the resolution was going to mention Hamas, it would also have to mention the IDF. The wording was deliberate for that reason.
      - tguvot 1y ago