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There's really no way to get into the vehicle from the outside if the battery is dead? I find that hard to believe... ...okay, looks like there is a way but it

There's really no way to get into the vehicle from the outside if the battery is dead? I find that hard to believe... ...okay, looks like there is a way but it's really convoluted and you need to basically jump-start the low voltage system (using either an ICE car or a battery pack). https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-3567D5F4-A5F4-4323-8BE0-023D5438FFC6.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-3567D5F... That's really, really dumb.

ericpauley 1y ago
It's particularly telling that Tesla's design flaws are so inexcusable that people have a hard time even believing they are real. Here's another example: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC... Yes, opening the rear door in some models requires popping an unlabeled access panel in the cargo pocket. The craziest part to me is that this isn't the evil profit maximizing à la Unsafe at Any Speed. It's simply pure designer insanity.
- Someone1234 1y ago
  This is actually their "upgraded" design, the original Model 3 had no rear mechanical release at all. Hidden or otherwise. None. See the older manual here: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2017_2023_model3/en_us/GUID-EA692A77-9F5B-44C4-B291-444263199337.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2017_2023_model3/en_us/GU... > Only the front doors are equipped with a manual door release. How was THAT legal? How was that ADA compliant?
  - amaranth 1y ago
    I believe it's legal because rear doors have child safety locks so often can't be opened from the inside anyway. Although that doesn't cover opening it from the outside...
- ryandrake 1y ago
  Wild. Door handles have been a solved problem for decades. Why do companies always have to go and fuck something up that's already working?
- jerlam 1y ago
  I guess I'm not surprised that only the vehicles made in China have the tiny concession to put a label on the access panel.
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hanikesn 1y ago
That's the correct entry in the manual: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC...
- Ajedi32 1y ago
  That doesn't explain how to open the doors from the outside. The entry I linked does. (Indirectly.)
ComputerGuru 1y ago
> okay, looks like there is a way but it's really convoluted and you need to basically jump-start the low voltage system So what you're actually saying is, there really isn't a (sane) way after all.
joeconway 1y ago
Now try doing that while the car is on fire with burning children inside https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/witness-of-triple-fatal-piedmont-cybertruck-crash-describes-what-happened/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/witness-of-triple-fatal-...

ericpauley 1y ago

It's particularly telling that Tesla's design flaws are so inexcusable that people have a hard time even believing they are real. Here's another example: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC... Yes, opening the rear door in some models requires popping an unlabeled access panel in the cargo pocket. The craziest part to me is that this isn't the evil profit maximizing à la Unsafe at Any Speed. It's simply pure designer insanity.

Someone1234 1y ago
This is actually their "upgraded" design, the original Model 3 had no rear mechanical release at all. Hidden or otherwise. None. See the older manual here: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2017_2023_model3/en_us/GUID-EA692A77-9F5B-44C4-B291-444263199337.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2017_2023_model3/en_us/GU... > Only the front doors are equipped with a manual door release. How was THAT legal? How was that ADA compliant?
- amaranth 1y ago
  I believe it's legal because rear doors have child safety locks so often can't be opened from the inside anyway. Although that doesn't cover opening it from the outside...
ryandrake 1y ago
Wild. Door handles have been a solved problem for decades. Why do companies always have to go and fuck something up that's already working?
jerlam 1y ago
I guess I'm not surprised that only the vehicles made in China have the tiny concession to put a label on the access panel.
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hanikesn 1y ago

That's the correct entry in the manual: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC...

Ajedi32 1y ago
That doesn't explain how to open the doors from the outside. The entry I linked does. (Indirectly.)

ComputerGuru 1y ago

> okay, looks like there is a way but it's really convoluted and you need to basically jump-start the low voltage system So what you're actually saying is, there really isn't a (sane) way after all.

joeconway 1y ago

Now try doing that while the car is on fire with burning children inside https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/witness-of-triple-fatal-piedmont-cybertruck-crash-describes-what-happened/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/witness-of-triple-fatal-...