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to substantiate "People talk to AI about increasingly personal things; it is different from previous generations of technology, and we believe that they may be

by swyx 1y ago

to substantiate "People talk to AI about increasingly personal things; it is different from previous generations of technology, and we believe that they may be one of the most personally sensitive accounts you’ll ever have." this is a chart that struck me when i read thru the report last night: https://x.com/swyx/status/1967836783653322964 https://x.com/swyx/status/1967836783653322964 "using chatgpt for work stuff" broadly has declined from 50%ish to 25%ish in the past year across all ages and the entire chatgpt user base. wild. people be just telling openai all their personal stuff (i don't but i'm clearly in the minority)

barrenko 1y ago
For the last part, I just think the userbase expanded so the people using it professionally were diluted so to speak.
Chris2048 1y ago
This is % though. Is that because the people that use it for work, are still using for work (or more even); because some have stopped using it for work, or because there is an influx of people using it for other things that never have, or will, use it for work.
koakuma-chan 1y ago
Why would I not tell AI about my personal stuff? It's really good at giving advice.
- nielsbot 1y ago
  ok but didn’t it advise that teen how to best kill himself? previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45026886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45026886
  - koakuma-chan 1y ago
    This does not take away benefits I mentioned, and the linked OpenAI post mentions they will address this.
- voakbasda 1y ago
  Because you’re not just telling the AI, you are also telling the company that built it, as well as their affiliated partners, advertisers, and data brokers?
  - koakuma-chan 1y ago
    You can run a model locally if you are afraid of that.
    - righthand 1y ago
      Everyone uses the cool Google AI app though and you get Fomo of not having the latest lie generator model.
      - koakuma-chan 1y ago
        Gemini 2.5 Pro is the latest right? It's available at https://ai.dev https://ai.dev (for free and without advertising).
- reaperducer 1y ago
  Why would I not tell AI about my personal stuff? It's really good at giving advice. Define "good" in this context. Being able to ape proper grammar and sentence structure does not mean the content is good or beneficial.
- aktuel 1y ago
  it's really good until it isn't and you can't tell the difference
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  > Why would I not tell AI about my personal stuff? aside from my economic tilt against for-profit companies... precisely because your personal stuff is personal. you're depersonalizing by sharing this information with a machine that cannot even attempt to earnestly understand human psychology in good faith and then accepting its responses and incorporating them into your decision-making process. > It's really good at giving advice. no, it's not. it's capable of assembling words that are likely to appear near other words in a way that you can occasionally process yourself as a coherent thought. if you take it for granted that these responses constitute anything other than the mere appearance of literally the most average-possible advice, you're abdicating your own sense of self and self-preservation. press releases aside, time and again these companies prove that they're not interested in the safety or well-being of their users. cui bono?
  - koakuma-chan 1y ago
    If these models give the most average possible advice, then average advice I get from humans must be around terrible. If you use Gemini, you can enable grounding and you will be able to see the source.
    - GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
      maybe so, but you also probably have the life-changing and highly-enriching opportunity to meet new people and develop meaningful relationships nearly every single day.
      - koakuma-chan 1y ago
        You're absolutely right.
  - astrange 1y ago
    > no, it's not. it's capable of assembling words that are likely to appear near other words in a way that you can occasionally process yourself as a coherent thought. It doesn't emit words at all. It emits subword tokens. The fact that it can assemble words from them (let alone sentences) shows it's doing something you're not giving it credit for. > literally the most average-possible advice "Average" is clearly magical thinking here. The "average" text would be the letter 'e'. And the average response from a base model LLM isn't the answer to a question, it's another question.
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by swyx 1y ago

barrenko 1y ago

For the last part, I just think the userbase expanded so the people using it professionally were diluted so to speak.

Chris2048 1y ago

This is % though. Is that because the people that use it for work, are still using for work (or more even); because some have stopped using it for work, or because there is an influx of people using it for other things that never have, or will, use it for work.

koakuma-chan 1y ago

Why would I not tell AI about my personal stuff? It's really good at giving advice.

nielsbot 1y ago
ok but didn’t it advise that teen how to best kill himself? previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45026886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45026886
- koakuma-chan 1y ago
  This does not take away benefits I mentioned, and the linked OpenAI post mentions they will address this.
voakbasda 1y ago
Because you’re not just telling the AI, you are also telling the company that built it, as well as their affiliated partners, advertisers, and data brokers?
- koakuma-chan 1y ago
  You can run a model locally if you are afraid of that.
  - righthand 1y ago
    Everyone uses the cool Google AI app though and you get Fomo of not having the latest lie generator model.
    - koakuma-chan 1y ago
      Gemini 2.5 Pro is the latest right? It's available at https://ai.dev https://ai.dev (for free and without advertising).
reaperducer 1y ago
Why would I not tell AI about my personal stuff? It's really good at giving advice. Define "good" in this context. Being able to ape proper grammar and sentence structure does not mean the content is good or beneficial.
aktuel 1y ago
it's really good until it isn't and you can't tell the difference
GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
> Why would I not tell AI about my personal stuff? aside from my economic tilt against for-profit companies... precisely because your personal stuff is personal. you're depersonalizing by sharing this information with a machine that cannot even attempt to earnestly understand human psychology in good faith and then accepting its responses and incorporating them into your decision-making process. > It's really good at giving advice. no, it's not. it's capable of assembling words that are likely to appear near other words in a way that you can occasionally process yourself as a coherent thought. if you take it for granted that these responses constitute anything other than the mere appearance of literally the most average-possible advice, you're abdicating your own sense of self and self-preservation. press releases aside, time and again these companies prove that they're not interested in the safety or well-being of their users. cui bono?
- koakuma-chan 1y ago
  If these models give the most average possible advice, then average advice I get from humans must be around terrible. If you use Gemini, you can enable grounding and you will be able to see the source.
  - GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
    maybe so, but you also probably have the life-changing and highly-enriching opportunity to meet new people and develop meaningful relationships nearly every single day.
    - koakuma-chan 1y ago
      You're absolutely right.
- astrange 1y ago
  > no, it's not. it's capable of assembling words that are likely to appear near other words in a way that you can occasionally process yourself as a coherent thought. It doesn't emit words at all. It emits subword tokens. The fact that it can assemble words from them (let alone sentences) shows it's doing something you're not giving it credit for. > literally the most average-possible advice "Average" is clearly magical thinking here. The "average" text would be the letter 'e'. And the average response from a base model LLM isn't the answer to a question, it's another question.

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