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It gets worse... both the wife and (either their husband or a previous partner) have their own threads on kiwi farms and are closely tied to both Encyclopedia D

It gets worse... both the wife and (either their husband or a previous partner) have their own threads on kiwi farms and are closely tied to both Encyclopedia Dramatica and Ethan Ralph. There's videos posted of them showing signs of severe mental illness. https://0x0.st/KcyY.jpg https://0x0.st/KcyY.jpg

tptacek 1y ago
Saying this only because I'm probably speaking for a lot of people here, but: I have no idea what any of that means.
- ranger_danger 1y ago
  I think it means we have very good reason to believe OP/adezero is severely embellishing the story and is simply lying (and has a documented history of it), even without all the actual evidence pointing directly to that.
- fwip 1y ago
  Kiwifarms is a forum that mainly is about chronicling the life events of people it can laugh at, often those suffering from mental illness. Oftentimes, kiwifarms users directly harass or manipulate their targets to try to provoke more weird behavior, usually directly making the target's life worse in the process. I can see why it's entertaining for folk (kind of like watching reality television), but overall it seems to have a pretty negative effect. And if you hang out there too long, it seems like you tend to lose human empathy.
  - tptacek 1y ago
    What does it mean to be "closely tied to Ethan Ralph"?
    - fwip 1y ago
      No idea, sorry. Google seems to indicate he's some kind of podcaster.
- sersi 1y ago
  Kiwifarms is a forum for harassing people. Famously Near (the developer behind BSNES/Higan emulator) committed suicide in part due to the abuse he received from that forum. And people on kiwifarms celebrated his death. Only reason I know of it is from the thread at the time on HN.
  - busterarm 1y ago
    Near admitted to being severely depressed and disillusioned about life years before the KF thread and harassment started. Near was also involved in several internet dramas long before the KF thread. It didn't help that they participated in these threads and admitted to things like self-gratification to shotacon content, etc. KF is a horrible place, but saying that they bullied this person into suicide is an easy scapegoat and a long stretch. Near/Byuu did a lot, deliberately, to bring negative attention to themselves over the years. For someone deeply involved in the emulation scene, they certainly committed lots of the scene's cardinal sins -- dump hoarding and gloating about it in particular. They also license trolled commercial users of competing emulators as a source of income... Threw temper tantrums about the existence of FPGA-based emulation because it wouldn't use their code... You only get a thread on KF by behaving like a lolcow.
    - runaround555 1y ago
      >KF is a horrible place, but saying that they bullied this person into suicide is an easy scapegoat and a long stretch >You only get a thread on KF by behaving like a lolcow. The problem with communities like that is that they leave little to no room for redemption and recovery. Once a group of obsessive nutjobs sets their sights on someone mentally vulnerable pretty much the only way is down. Any chance to improve your life is just going to be met with an increased levels of harassment to get back the entertainment they so desperately crave. I fully believe that a lot of the more famous "lolcows" that committed suicide or spiraled down to really ugly depths weren't actually lost causes until groups like kf got involved. Just people who were a little bit weird or different who if they got off the net and touched grass for better lack of a term and not been discovered by organized gang stalkers could've lived much different lives. Nobody deserves that level of harassment even if they are a "lolcow"
- blueflow 1y ago
  orchestrated harassment campaigns happening. I'm being intentionally vague on who is the perpetrator in this situation because usually its just a chaotic pileup with no reasonable persons involved. My recommendation: ignore and swipe under the rug anything where KF is in play. Whatever it is, visibility feeds it.
psunavy03 1y ago
. . . which means what, exactly, for those of us who are not Very Online?
- fruitworks 1y ago
  Don't worry about it man, you clearly can't be bothered with it because you aren't extremely online. Come to think of it, what are you even doing here, shouldn't you be mowing your lawn or going to a football game or something?
trollbridge 1y ago
People with severe mental illnesses still have Constitutional rights, including one not to get their head bashed in. Running a Tor exit node is also not a crime, and he ran it long before there was any conviction. And asking to decrypt incoming traffic (from other nodes) is really sus; it has nothing at all do with the accused’s parole or alleged crimes.
- ranger_danger 1y ago
  > People with severe mental illnesses still have Constitutional rights, including one not to get their head bashed in. Yes, I wasn't trying to imply that. But according to court records he got hurt because he was being combative during the execution of an arrest warrant. > Running a Tor exit node is also not a crime Probably correct, and the original headline seemed to try to imply that it was in fact what they got in trouble for (it has since been changed), but there's way more to this story than OP lets on... by a mile.

tptacek 1y ago

Saying this only because I'm probably speaking for a lot of people here, but: I have no idea what any of that means.

ranger_danger 1y ago
I think it means we have very good reason to believe OP/adezero is severely embellishing the story and is simply lying (and has a documented history of it), even without all the actual evidence pointing directly to that.
fwip 1y ago
Kiwifarms is a forum that mainly is about chronicling the life events of people it can laugh at, often those suffering from mental illness. Oftentimes, kiwifarms users directly harass or manipulate their targets to try to provoke more weird behavior, usually directly making the target's life worse in the process. I can see why it's entertaining for folk (kind of like watching reality television), but overall it seems to have a pretty negative effect. And if you hang out there too long, it seems like you tend to lose human empathy.
- tptacek 1y ago
  What does it mean to be "closely tied to Ethan Ralph"?
  - fwip 1y ago
    No idea, sorry. Google seems to indicate he's some kind of podcaster.
sersi 1y ago
Kiwifarms is a forum for harassing people. Famously Near (the developer behind BSNES/Higan emulator) committed suicide in part due to the abuse he received from that forum. And people on kiwifarms celebrated his death. Only reason I know of it is from the thread at the time on HN.
- busterarm 1y ago
  Near admitted to being severely depressed and disillusioned about life years before the KF thread and harassment started. Near was also involved in several internet dramas long before the KF thread. It didn't help that they participated in these threads and admitted to things like self-gratification to shotacon content, etc. KF is a horrible place, but saying that they bullied this person into suicide is an easy scapegoat and a long stretch. Near/Byuu did a lot, deliberately, to bring negative attention to themselves over the years. For someone deeply involved in the emulation scene, they certainly committed lots of the scene's cardinal sins -- dump hoarding and gloating about it in particular. They also license trolled commercial users of competing emulators as a source of income... Threw temper tantrums about the existence of FPGA-based emulation because it wouldn't use their code... You only get a thread on KF by behaving like a lolcow.
  - runaround555 1y ago
    >KF is a horrible place, but saying that they bullied this person into suicide is an easy scapegoat and a long stretch >You only get a thread on KF by behaving like a lolcow. The problem with communities like that is that they leave little to no room for redemption and recovery. Once a group of obsessive nutjobs sets their sights on someone mentally vulnerable pretty much the only way is down. Any chance to improve your life is just going to be met with an increased levels of harassment to get back the entertainment they so desperately crave. I fully believe that a lot of the more famous "lolcows" that committed suicide or spiraled down to really ugly depths weren't actually lost causes until groups like kf got involved. Just people who were a little bit weird or different who if they got off the net and touched grass for better lack of a term and not been discovered by organized gang stalkers could've lived much different lives. Nobody deserves that level of harassment even if they are a "lolcow"
blueflow 1y ago
orchestrated harassment campaigns happening. I'm being intentionally vague on who is the perpetrator in this situation because usually its just a chaotic pileup with no reasonable persons involved. My recommendation: ignore and swipe under the rug anything where KF is in play. Whatever it is, visibility feeds it.

psunavy03 1y ago

. . . which means what, exactly, for those of us who are not Very Online?

fruitworks 1y ago
Don't worry about it man, you clearly can't be bothered with it because you aren't extremely online. Come to think of it, what are you even doing here, shouldn't you be mowing your lawn or going to a football game or something?

trollbridge 1y ago

People with severe mental illnesses still have Constitutional rights, including one not to get their head bashed in. Running a Tor exit node is also not a crime, and he ran it long before there was any conviction. And asking to decrypt incoming traffic (from other nodes) is really sus; it has nothing at all do with the accused’s parole or alleged crimes.

ranger_danger 1y ago
> People with severe mental illnesses still have Constitutional rights, including one not to get their head bashed in. Yes, I wasn't trying to imply that. But according to court records he got hurt because he was being combative during the execution of an arrest warrant. > Running a Tor exit node is also not a crime Probably correct, and the original headline seemed to try to imply that it was in fact what they got in trouble for (it has since been changed), but there's way more to this story than OP lets on... by a mile.