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Interesting, what triggered the post now?

• hackyhacky 1y ago
  I honestly cannot imagine why someone just now is posting an article about how a singular crime is used as a justification for a massive government power grab and an excuse to oppress the ruling party's political opponents, despite negligible evidence of any connection to the crime. [1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/jd-vance-charlie-kirk-show.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/jd-vance-char...
  • rokkamokka 1y ago
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    • john-h-k 1y ago
      I don’t think there is yet enough evidence to show the political beliefs of the suspect in either direction. Seems X/Bluesky is awash with certainty that it’s “the other side” but I have not seen any good hard evidence of this
      • hackyhacky 1y ago
        > I have not seen any good hard evidence of this True, but for the purposes of a government power grab, the details of the actual crime, who did what and why, are hardly relevant. It only matters that the government can generate enough propaganda to make people think there's a connection.
      • aredox 1y ago
        The Reichtag fire was caused by a Communist militant- at the time where "Communist" meant litterally "Stalinist". Even if the Charlie Kirk murderer was a crimson red trans gay pedophilic crypto scammer and card-carrying Democrat personally instructed and paid by Obama, the point here is "using him as a pretext to destroy all opposition under false pretense".
        • john-h-k 1y ago
          Yes, and it is bad if the government do that. It does not mean it is then correct to claim he has beliefs he doesn’t. We should be saying “we don’t know his beliefs and the government is making a power grab”
    • nmeofthestate 1y ago
      >An extremist right-wing citizen murders another slightly less extremist right-wing politician, It's mind-boggling how successful this messaging has been, considering the facts.
      • th0ma5 1y ago
        How convenient that the facts haven't been verified by anyone not a Republican.
        • throwaway250624 1y ago
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      • piva00 1y ago
        The only facts we know are: Mormon Christian, terminally online, left some memes in casings. Considering the facts we can't know anything, the messaging is coming from both sides based on their own agendas. The remaining fact is: Trump's government is attempting a power grab based on this murder.
        • cholantesh 1y ago
          Memes that are very specifically associated with a far-right subculture.
          • Redoubts 1y ago
            No? How could you possibly come to this conclusion
          • bitlax 1y ago
            None of the memes are exclusive to the right. Much of his writing is exclusive to the left. Why are you lying?
        • bitlax 1y ago
          > The only facts we know Who's we? You seem to have missed a lot. Edit: The shooter is a deranged leftist. Absolutely none of the evidence contradicts this. Much of the evidence disproves the claim that he was a conservative.
    • somedude895 1y ago
      Holy wow, where do you spend your time to arrive at that narrative? I read both right and left wing media to get a balanced view, but I haven't seen anyone that far off the deep end yet. The most reasonable actual fact from this whole thing that I've read is that the guy was terminally online and that's what drove him crazy. Some people could learn from that.
      • cholantesh 1y ago
        So your money is on the 18 hours of Helldivers a day and not the company he kept while doing so?
    • andrewchambers 1y ago
      Hoping for a polymarket bet so this can be resolved.
  • bvvgpc 1y ago
    hadn't seen that news yet, thanks for sharing.