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I wish it was that fast. Somehow in the past 15 years prices for a 10/100/200Mbit have stayed exactly the same, only Gigabit came down a smidge to around 70 eur

I wish it was that fast. Somehow in the past 15 years prices for a 10/100/200Mbit have stayed exactly the same, only Gigabit came down a smidge to around 70 euro/month now. As if all the hardware and switches hadn't evolved at all. And for some reason, nowadays over 5G you get pretty much the exact same speed/price combos as for DSL or cable, only with less guarantees.

asdff 1y ago
I don't think they are ever going to run gigabit over to me if they haven't by this point.
- cenamus 1y ago
  That's the other point, fibre can be a bit cheaper but not even all 10 year old apartment blocks have fibre run in to building??? If you wanna get it installed that'll be at least a couple hundred extra
  - asdff 1y ago
    More than that. When I called about it they made it seem like I had to pay for the entire installation from wherever the nearest fiber line was all the way to my place. They quoted me a couple thousand dollar price and I never asked again because I don't even own this place.
00deadbeef 1y ago
It's not that expensive everywhere. In the UK I can get 1000/1000Mbps for £29 a month, and 8000/8000Mbps for £99 a month.
arccy 1y ago
with 30% inflation in the euro area over the past 10 years... the price has maybe gone down in real terms by staying the same?
- cenamus 1y ago
  And how much has equipment gotten faster/cheaper? Tad bit over 30% I'd say, on the side of 10x? 50x? 100x?
  - arccy 1y ago
    the cost of actually getting the equipment into use (laying down new fiber etc) probably went up though.
jeroenhd 1y ago
It highly depends on where you live. I can get gigabit for about €32,50 a month. 2gbps for about €40. Unfortunately, the cheap ISP that offers these rates doesn't have IPv6 so I'll stay with my current one. €70/mo would get me 4gbps symmetrical with another ISP. All of those include a WiFi 7 capable router, of course. Prices have increased, but high prices are a local problem. The €35 price for cheap gigabit would equate to about €20 in 2000, so I think prices have stagnated alright, but speeds have evolved a lot since then.
- nottorp 1y ago
  Kinda off topic, but I'm staying on a 500 mbps pipe for now... simply because I don't see the reason for more. I could get up to 2 Gbit by making a phone call to my curent ISP but why?
- cenamus 1y ago
  May I ask which country that is?
superkuh 1y ago
70 euro a month for gigabit? That's a great price! And way, way, way, more than you need for self hosting a website (maybe more for other things?). I've hosted my .com website from home since the late 90s and anything faster than a couple megabits is just fine .My current 80/10 megabits connection from comcast is $115/mo and has a 1.2TB data transfer cap with $10 per 50GB over. Even with such a terrible, expensive, exploitive ISP I host my dot com from home just fine. Trying to host from wireless would probably not work so well. Do they even give you a real ipv4? And even if so, you're round trip time is inherently randomized which leads to tcp backoff and slowdowns in this context.

asdff 1y ago

I don't think they are ever going to run gigabit over to me if they haven't by this point.

cenamus 1y ago
That's the other point, fibre can be a bit cheaper but not even all 10 year old apartment blocks have fibre run in to building??? If you wanna get it installed that'll be at least a couple hundred extra
- asdff 1y ago
  More than that. When I called about it they made it seem like I had to pay for the entire installation from wherever the nearest fiber line was all the way to my place. They quoted me a couple thousand dollar price and I never asked again because I don't even own this place.

00deadbeef 1y ago

It's not that expensive everywhere. In the UK I can get 1000/1000Mbps for £29 a month, and 8000/8000Mbps for £99 a month.

arccy 1y ago

with 30% inflation in the euro area over the past 10 years... the price has maybe gone down in real terms by staying the same?

cenamus 1y ago
And how much has equipment gotten faster/cheaper? Tad bit over 30% I'd say, on the side of 10x? 50x? 100x?
- arccy 1y ago
  the cost of actually getting the equipment into use (laying down new fiber etc) probably went up though.

jeroenhd 1y ago

It highly depends on where you live. I can get gigabit for about €32,50 a month. 2gbps for about €40. Unfortunately, the cheap ISP that offers these rates doesn't have IPv6 so I'll stay with my current one. €70/mo would get me 4gbps symmetrical with another ISP. All of those include a WiFi 7 capable router, of course. Prices have increased, but high prices are a local problem. The €35 price for cheap gigabit would equate to about €20 in 2000, so I think prices have stagnated alright, but speeds have evolved a lot since then.

nottorp 1y ago
Kinda off topic, but I'm staying on a 500 mbps pipe for now... simply because I don't see the reason for more. I could get up to 2 Gbit by making a phone call to my curent ISP but why?
cenamus 1y ago
May I ask which country that is?

superkuh 1y ago

70 euro a month for gigabit? That's a great price! And way, way, way, more than you need for self hosting a website (maybe more for other things?). I've hosted my .com website from home since the late 90s and anything faster than a couple megabits is just fine .My current 80/10 megabits connection from comcast is $115/mo and has a 1.2TB data transfer cap with $10 per 50GB over. Even with such a terrible, expensive, exploitive ISP I host my dot com from home just fine. Trying to host from wireless would probably not work so well. Do they even give you a real ipv4? And even if so, you're round trip time is inherently randomized which leads to tcp backoff and slowdowns in this context.