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Pardon my potentially naive question, but would Samsung ever develop their own OS? I imagine they're not necessarily happy about some of the latest changes to a

Pardon my potentially naive question, but would Samsung ever develop their own OS? I imagine they're not necessarily happy about some of the latest changes to android.

monocasa 1y ago
They'd almost certainly just fork android like the various Chinese companies and Amazon have done.
spease 1y ago
Yeah, they could call it Tizen or something.
- joshdavham 1y ago
  Please spare me the sarcasm...
internet2000 1y ago
Bada and Tizen. They've been trying for 15 years. Tizen in particular is as Linux as it gets. Long story short: it's not something the market wants.
- joshdavham 1y ago
  Interesting! > Long story short: it's not something the market wants. Who knows. Maybe this could change?
  - numpad0 1y ago
    The market HAD changed to what it is now from what it was. Most handheld manufacturers had garbage mobile app platforms back in 2007. Something happened in January of that year and they all started coughing blood.
- j45 1y ago
  The market doesn't care what it's coded in, its just about end user convenience and usability. Android is Linux based, and so is iOS. They focused on the UX and what it took. It leaves it possible for linux to do it again.
  - SahAssar 1y ago
    Android does not use what we normally call a linux userspace. iOS is not at all linux based, although it is UNIX-like.
    - j45 1y ago
      I went to go check my memory :) Android is based off, and runs off a linux kernel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system). Android being modified in places including userspace is a fair point, but it's linux derived. MacOS reminded me of it's BSD intermixings. Although the BSDs are separate from Linux, both were Unix alternatives. MacOS was downported to iOS. While iOS is not Linux at it's core, it's definitely based on an alternative to unix, similar to linux. BSD references: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/OSX_Technology_Overview/SystemTechnology/SystemTechnology.html https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ma...
- like_any_other 1y ago
  > it's not something the market wants. If it was just "the market" guiding things, there would be no need to lock things down against consumers, or pulling bait-and-switches with slowly closing down the previously open-source Android, would there? Please learn to recognize when you are under attack.
- ptx 1y ago
  If I recall correctly, Bada was already more locked down from the start, with app distribution only permitted with Samsung's approval. Otherwise I would have been interested in trying a Bada phone.

Pardon my potentially naive question, but would Samsung ever develop their own OS? I imagine they're not necessarily happy about some of the latest changes to android.

monocasa 1y ago

They'd almost certainly just fork android like the various Chinese companies and Amazon have done.

spease 1y ago

Yeah, they could call it Tizen or something.

joshdavham 1y ago
Please spare me the sarcasm...

internet2000 1y ago

Bada and Tizen. They've been trying for 15 years. Tizen in particular is as Linux as it gets. Long story short: it's not something the market wants.

joshdavham 1y ago
Interesting! > Long story short: it's not something the market wants. Who knows. Maybe this could change?
- numpad0 1y ago
  The market HAD changed to what it is now from what it was. Most handheld manufacturers had garbage mobile app platforms back in 2007. Something happened in January of that year and they all started coughing blood.
j45 1y ago
The market doesn't care what it's coded in, its just about end user convenience and usability. Android is Linux based, and so is iOS. They focused on the UX and what it took. It leaves it possible for linux to do it again.
- SahAssar 1y ago
  Android does not use what we normally call a linux userspace. iOS is not at all linux based, although it is UNIX-like.
  - j45 1y ago
    I went to go check my memory :) Android is based off, and runs off a linux kernel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system). Android being modified in places including userspace is a fair point, but it's linux derived. MacOS reminded me of it's BSD intermixings. Although the BSDs are separate from Linux, both were Unix alternatives. MacOS was downported to iOS. While iOS is not Linux at it's core, it's definitely based on an alternative to unix, similar to linux. BSD references: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/OSX_Technology_Overview/SystemTechnology/SystemTechnology.html https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ma...
like_any_other 1y ago
> it's not something the market wants. If it was just "the market" guiding things, there would be no need to lock things down against consumers, or pulling bait-and-switches with slowly closing down the previously open-source Android, would there? Please learn to recognize when you are under attack.
ptx 1y ago
If I recall correctly, Bada was already more locked down from the start, with app distribution only permitted with Samsung's approval. Otherwise I would have been interested in trying a Bada phone.