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In giant font at the top of the linked post: > apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that devel

by debo_ 1y ago

In giant font at the top of the linked post: > apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate. Please don’t be one of the 34 people that replied to tell me Linux is not ready.

akagusu 1y ago
Linux is ready, what is not ready is the ecosystem.
- olivia-banks 1y ago
  Exactly. The kernel more or less doesn't matter, it's "the stuff on top."
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - akagusu 1y ago
    Unfortunately tech people don't understand this. Common people don't care about the OS, they care about apps.
    - jay_kyburz 1y ago
      Some tech people don't care what common people want, they just want a cool phone for themselves.
    - shaky-carrousel 1y ago
      I smell a "no true Scottman" here. Because people always say "common people do what I say" and when someone says "hey, I am common people and I disagree", the same people usually answer "well, then you're not common _enough_". Which is a huge fallacy.
      - akagusu 1y ago
        > Common people don't care about the OS, they care about apps. My statement is based on 25 year as an IT professional where I migrated people and businesses from Windows to Linux, from iOS to Android, from old Unixes to Windows/Linux and the list goes on. Just give to people the apps they need or want and the rest is easily managed.
- nextos 1y ago
  SailfishOS is quite polished, and there's an Android emulation API. Lots of common applications, including many banking ones, run without a problem. It's a chicken-egg issue. The last 10% of polish won't be done till a critical mass of users adopt the platform, and vice versa.
  - IlikeKitties 1y ago
    >SailfishOS is quite polished, and there's an Android emulation API. Lots of common applications, including many banking ones, run without a problem. Remote Attestation and the Play Integrity API will soon make that stop.
- jancsika 1y ago
  Power management and cameras are working and stable on (non-Android) Linux phones? Which ones?
  - fsflover 1y ago
    Librem 5 is my daily driver. The camera is not amazing, but it works fine. The battery can last one day just fine with a non-heavy use. And you can replace the battery on the go.
haspok 1y ago
> Linux is not ready OK, but what steps are being made to make it ready? How do you solve the issue of many apps not accepting rooted Androids (and very rightly so)? I mean, Linux distros even struggle with Secure Boot on a normal PC - which is a far easier problem to solve...
- Hackbraten 1y ago
  Reverse engineering those government apps and writing native FOSS replacements would be a start.

by debo_ 1y ago

akagusu 1y ago

Linux is ready, what is not ready is the ecosystem.

olivia-banks 1y ago
Exactly. The kernel more or less doesn't matter, it's "the stuff on top."
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- akagusu 1y ago
  Unfortunately tech people don't understand this. Common people don't care about the OS, they care about apps.
  - jay_kyburz 1y ago
    Some tech people don't care what common people want, they just want a cool phone for themselves.
  - shaky-carrousel 1y ago
    I smell a "no true Scottman" here. Because people always say "common people do what I say" and when someone says "hey, I am common people and I disagree", the same people usually answer "well, then you're not common _enough_". Which is a huge fallacy.
    - akagusu 1y ago
      > Common people don't care about the OS, they care about apps. My statement is based on 25 year as an IT professional where I migrated people and businesses from Windows to Linux, from iOS to Android, from old Unixes to Windows/Linux and the list goes on. Just give to people the apps they need or want and the rest is easily managed.
nextos 1y ago
SailfishOS is quite polished, and there's an Android emulation API. Lots of common applications, including many banking ones, run without a problem. It's a chicken-egg issue. The last 10% of polish won't be done till a critical mass of users adopt the platform, and vice versa.
- IlikeKitties 1y ago
  >SailfishOS is quite polished, and there's an Android emulation API. Lots of common applications, including many banking ones, run without a problem. Remote Attestation and the Play Integrity API will soon make that stop.
jancsika 1y ago
Power management and cameras are working and stable on (non-Android) Linux phones? Which ones?
- fsflover 1y ago
  Librem 5 is my daily driver. The camera is not amazing, but it works fine. The battery can last one day just fine with a non-heavy use. And you can replace the battery on the go.

haspok 1y ago

> Linux is not ready OK, but what steps are being made to make it ready? How do you solve the issue of many apps not accepting rooted Androids (and very rightly so)? I mean, Linux distros even struggle with Secure Boot on a normal PC - which is a far easier problem to solve...

Hackbraten 1y ago
Reverse engineering those government apps and writing native FOSS replacements would be a start.