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Right? If manufacturers stopped permanently attaching USB cables to mice and keyboards, then the problem is solved. That way you can get the cable you need, or

Right? If manufacturers stopped permanently attaching USB cables to mice and keyboards, then the problem is solved. That way you can get the cable you need, or maybe you decide to go cordless. It's up to you.

eqvinox 1y ago
Sadly, the port is [a few cents] more expensive than the captive cable, especially with USB >= 3.0* on USB-C where a port must handle connector reversal. (And if course if you look at "final price" with including a cable in the box :/) * e.g. keyboard with USB3 hub (FWIW my mouse actually has a USB-C port, it's a dual wired/wireless Keychron M6. Really nice way of doing it IMHO.) Btw, "port must handle reversal" is why USB-C -> USB-C + optional C-to-A adapter have the adapter fixed on so you can't rotate it. It's not just good UX, the adapter would also otherwise need to handle reversal.
- taylodl 1y ago
  I wouldn't include the cable in the box and I certainly wouldn't worry about USB >= 3.0 for a mouse or keyboard.
  - eqvinox 1y ago
    You pretty much have to include the cable at least for a mouse since a normal cable will be either too rigid or die rather quickly to the continuous movement. The one my mouse came with has a rather nice woven mantle and is quite flexible, hopefully without breaking soon (haven't had the mouse for that long yet, will see.)
    - taylodl 1y ago
      The cable that came with my Logitech mouse is the cheapest cable imaginable and is non-replaceable. I guarantee the mouse will last longer than the cable, which is 18 months old and already has 3 tears in the outer sheath.
      - eqvinox 1y ago
        Maybe buy less shitty mice ;-) My last 2 mice both died to microswitch failures, one hard failure (just didn't do anything), one soft failure (just became very mushy and annoying to use). Don't remember before that.
        taylodl 1y ago
        Yeah, but the component that's failing is the component that shouldn't have even been part of the package in the first place.
tracker1 1y ago
Half the keyboards I've used in the past few years are detachable on the keyboard end. :-) Though, they mostly have 2 A ports for N-key rollover support.

eqvinox 1y ago

Sadly, the port is [a few cents] more expensive than the captive cable, especially with USB >= 3.0* on USB-C where a port must handle connector reversal. (And if course if you look at "final price" with including a cable in the box :/) * e.g. keyboard with USB3 hub (FWIW my mouse actually has a USB-C port, it's a dual wired/wireless Keychron M6. Really nice way of doing it IMHO.) Btw, "port must handle reversal" is why USB-C -> USB-C + optional C-to-A adapter have the adapter fixed on so you can't rotate it. It's not just good UX, the adapter would also otherwise need to handle reversal.

taylodl 1y ago
I wouldn't include the cable in the box and I certainly wouldn't worry about USB >= 3.0 for a mouse or keyboard.
- eqvinox 1y ago
  You pretty much have to include the cable at least for a mouse since a normal cable will be either too rigid or die rather quickly to the continuous movement. The one my mouse came with has a rather nice woven mantle and is quite flexible, hopefully without breaking soon (haven't had the mouse for that long yet, will see.)
  - taylodl 1y ago
    The cable that came with my Logitech mouse is the cheapest cable imaginable and is non-replaceable. I guarantee the mouse will last longer than the cable, which is 18 months old and already has 3 tears in the outer sheath.
    - eqvinox 1y ago
      Maybe buy less shitty mice ;-) My last 2 mice both died to microswitch failures, one hard failure (just didn't do anything), one soft failure (just became very mushy and annoying to use). Don't remember before that.
      - taylodl 1y ago
        Yeah, but the component that's failing is the component that shouldn't have even been part of the package in the first place.

tracker1 1y ago

Half the keyboards I've used in the past few years are detachable on the keyboard end. :-) Though, they mostly have 2 A ports for N-key rollover support.