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Then fine the companies and don’t shackle the workers. This isn’t just going to impact our relationship with Korea, but also the rest of the world too. Optics

Then fine the companies and don’t shackle the workers. This isn’t just going to impact our relationship with Korea, but also the rest of the world too. Optics, in international relations, matter a lot.

alephnerd 1y ago
> Then fine the companies and don’t shackle the workers We have been for years now, but Hyundai has not changed their practices in the US. From child labor [0] to employees literally crushed to death [1] to constant OSHA failures [2] for over a decade [3], Hyundai's leadership has continued to have a horrid track record on worker safety in the United States. We have been punishing them for decades, but they do not change. If this is the only way to get a message across to Korea Inc, so be it. > Optics, in international relations, matter a lot. Of course. Yet the optics of a company like Hyundai getting hundreds of millions to billions of dollars in state and federal subsidizes but continuing to flout US laws also matters. As I mentioned before, Samsung hasn't had similar scandals despite investing a similar amount in the US, nor have Hyundai's peers in Japan. Using the ICE raid to whitewash Hyundai's obscene labor record (like a number of commentators are doing) is ridiculous. [0] - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/30/business/hyundai-child-labor-lawsuit.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/30/business/hyundai-child-la... [1] - https://www.enr.com/articles/60802-third-fatality-recorded-at-hyundais-76b-metaplant-in-georgia https://www.enr.com/articles/60802-third-fatality-recorded-a... [2] - https://www.wsav.com/news/local-news/osha-construction-workers-death-at-hyundai-site-couldve-been-prevented/ https://www.wsav.com/news/local-news/osha-construction-worke... [3] - https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osha/osha20161214-0 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osha/osha20161214-0
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
  They didn't whitewash anything, read their comment(s) again. They said to punish the company, but not put hundreds of employees who were told their papers were in order - half of which whose papers were - in literal shackles like they're violent criminals. What the everyday person sees in their news feeds is important and shapes how the US is viewed culturally and as an economic partner. I'll throw in that we should actually talk about fixing our VISA rules?
- judahmeek 1y ago
  > Using the ICE raid to whitewash Hyundai's obscene labor record (like a number of commentators are doing) is ridiculous. Using Hyundai's allegedly obscene labor record to whitewash the ICE raid seems similarly ridiculous.
- aaomidi 1y ago
  Literally none of this matters. Ban them from operating in the US. There are literally countless better ways to deal with this. Also, given this party is trying to legalize child labor in multiple states, I don’t think they did this because of working conditions.

alephnerd 1y ago

> Then fine the companies and don’t shackle the workers We have been for years now, but Hyundai has not changed their practices in the US. From child labor [0] to employees literally crushed to death [1] to constant OSHA failures [2] for over a decade [3], Hyundai's leadership has continued to have a horrid track record on worker safety in the United States. We have been punishing them for decades, but they do not change. If this is the only way to get a message across to Korea Inc, so be it. > Optics, in international relations, matter a lot. Of course. Yet the optics of a company like Hyundai getting hundreds of millions to billions of dollars in state and federal subsidizes but continuing to flout US laws also matters. As I mentioned before, Samsung hasn't had similar scandals despite investing a similar amount in the US, nor have Hyundai's peers in Japan. Using the ICE raid to whitewash Hyundai's obscene labor record (like a number of commentators are doing) is ridiculous. [0] - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/30/business/hyundai-child-labor-lawsuit.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/30/business/hyundai-child-la... [1] - https://www.enr.com/articles/60802-third-fatality-recorded-at-hyundais-76b-metaplant-in-georgia https://www.enr.com/articles/60802-third-fatality-recorded-a... [2] - https://www.wsav.com/news/local-news/osha-construction-workers-death-at-hyundai-site-couldve-been-prevented/ https://www.wsav.com/news/local-news/osha-construction-worke... [3] - https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osha/osha20161214-0 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osha/osha20161214-0

Tadpole9181 1y ago
They didn't whitewash anything, read their comment(s) again. They said to punish the company, but not put hundreds of employees who were told their papers were in order - half of which whose papers were - in literal shackles like they're violent criminals. What the everyday person sees in their news feeds is important and shapes how the US is viewed culturally and as an economic partner. I'll throw in that we should actually talk about fixing our VISA rules?
judahmeek 1y ago
> Using the ICE raid to whitewash Hyundai's obscene labor record (like a number of commentators are doing) is ridiculous. Using Hyundai's allegedly obscene labor record to whitewash the ICE raid seems similarly ridiculous.
aaomidi 1y ago
Literally none of this matters. Ban them from operating in the US. There are literally countless better ways to deal with this. Also, given this party is trying to legalize child labor in multiple states, I don’t think they did this because of working conditions.