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> Is that what actually happened Yes. Manufacturing speicifc news agencies have reported on this [0]. Korean and American unions have united to condemn the IC

> Is that what actually happened Yes. Manufacturing speicifc news agencies have reported on this [0]. Korean and American unions have united to condemn the ICE raids [1], but that doesn't absolve Hyundai-LG for committing labor and immigration abuse. > It seems grossly inefficient to me to send workers on B1s to pour cement. It is WAY cheaper than paying the right insurance and US construction salairies ($20k-40k in SK versus $70k-90k in the Georgia). > It's not just salaries though is it? There's hotels/accommodation, flights, per diems That's at most $10k post-tax. Paying $70k-90k means also paying around an additional 0.25-0.5x in employer contributions depending on the state in the US. By bringing in labor from Korea, they are being paid in Won, covered by insurance IN Korea (not the US), and all workman's comp has been paid IN Korea (not the US). > so there'd be some language friction Yep, but most of management and the chain in-between in Hyundai (and most Korean companies) are always Koreans or Korean diaspora. This has been a major friction in Vietnam and India as well, where Korean companies like Hyundai-Kia and Samsung would segregate Korean nationals and Korean origin personnel from locals (eg. Separate canteens, separate accommodations, separate per diems) even if they were doing the same work at the same level. Samsung's chip design office in Gurgaon is notorious for this. > which you edited later to remove) I can't reply, so I'm in the process of replying via edits. I accidentally deleted it during the editing process [0] - https://www.manufacturingdive.com/news/georgia-hyundai-jobsite-raid-ice-construction/759629/ https://www.manufacturingdive.com/news/georgia-hyundai-jobsi... [1] - https://uaw.org/kmwu-and-uaw-joint-statement-we-stand-united-against-all-attacks-restricting-the-rights-of-workers/ https://uaw.org/kmwu-and-uaw-joint-statement-we-stand-united...

triceratops 1y ago
> Even Korean unions united with the UAW to condemn Hyundai-LG for this The statement has a vague mention of the company forcing the workers to shoulder "visa risks". One sentence out of 5 paragraphs. Most of the condemnation in that statement is about the actual raid. Even UAW, an American union, thought that went too far. > It is WAY cheaper than paying the right insurance and US construction salairies ($20k-40k in SK) It's not just salaries though is it? There's hotels/accommodation, flights, per diems. The churn of flying people back and forth. I presume Korean construction workers aren't necessarily fluent in English (I don't know how education there works) so there'd be some language friction. You might as well hire undocumented construction workers who are already in the country (which they have also been doing apparently).
triceratops 1y ago
> Yes. Manufacturing speicifc news agencies have reported on this I read both your UAW/Korean union statement (which you edited later to remove) and the manufacturing dive source. Neither of them states what specific work the detained Korean workers were doing. Definitely no mention of mundane construction wors by Korean workers at this site specifically. Although it did state 23% of construction workers in the US are undocumented. As I said, the media reporting on this has been extremely lax and vague about what actually happened. They either don't know how to report it or don't want people to know for whatever reason.

triceratops 1y ago

> Even Korean unions united with the UAW to condemn Hyundai-LG for this The statement has a vague mention of the company forcing the workers to shoulder "visa risks". One sentence out of 5 paragraphs. Most of the condemnation in that statement is about the actual raid. Even UAW, an American union, thought that went too far. > It is WAY cheaper than paying the right insurance and US construction salairies ($20k-40k in SK) It's not just salaries though is it? There's hotels/accommodation, flights, per diems. The churn of flying people back and forth. I presume Korean construction workers aren't necessarily fluent in English (I don't know how education there works) so there'd be some language friction. You might as well hire undocumented construction workers who are already in the country (which they have also been doing apparently).

triceratops 1y ago

> Yes. Manufacturing speicifc news agencies have reported on this I read both your UAW/Korean union statement (which you edited later to remove) and the manufacturing dive source. Neither of them states what specific work the detained Korean workers were doing. Definitely no mention of mundane construction wors by Korean workers at this site specifically. Although it did state 23% of construction workers in the US are undocumented. As I said, the media reporting on this has been extremely lax and vague about what actually happened. They either don't know how to report it or don't want people to know for whatever reason.