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> Pronounced "crust". No, pronounced X-rust! You can't just make up pronunciation as you please. If you want people to call it that, you should have named it "

by 7bit 1y ago

> Pronounced "crust". No, pronounced X-rust! You can't just make up pronunciation as you please. If you want people to call it that, you should have named it "Crust" in the first place. This kind of thing really grinds my gear!

eviks 1y ago
"To be fair" they did call it "χrust", so not X, though still wouldn't get you C
- 7bit 1y ago
  Exactly it still isn't pronounced crust. And it makes matters worse. Why would you name something in a way, that possibly only the Greek can write on their keyboard?
betaby 1y ago
From wikipedia "In Modern Greek, it has two distinct pronunciations: In front of high or front vowels (/e/ or /i/) it is pronounced as a voiceless palatal fricative [ç], as in German ich or like some pronunciations of "h" in English words like hew and human. In front of low or back vowels (/a/, /o/ or /u/) and consonants, it is pronounced as a voiceless velar fricative ([x]), as in German ach or Spanish j. This distinction corresponds to the ich-Laut and ach-Laut of German."
- froh42 1y ago
  "ch" sounds nothing like "k" in German. (Neither the "ich" nor the "ach" form). You could claim it if you'd speak Bavarian (Chiemsee starts with a "k", for "Chemie" people are diveded if it's "kehmee" or "shehmee"). So don't use weirdly constructed things as names with your own pronunciation instruction. That's a tragedeigh.
  - SyrupThinker 1y ago
    I think it is somewhat ironic that you try to make a point that Chemie is an exception, when it is exactly the sort of example the claim is made from. Ich and Chemie are pretty similarly pronounced (some people say either with a harder k sound, ik, "kehmee"). Chemie also derives from the Greek χύμεία, so it contains the Chi to make the comparison. A similar case can also be made for Jesus Christus, I certainly think Christus' pronunciation starts like crust. And hey, if you derive the Greek root for it, you get Χριστός, which starts with Chi again. I think a better case can be made just arguing against mixing alphabets like this.
- 7bit 1y ago
  So, you confirm what I just said?
hollerith 1y ago
OK, but Knuth did maintain that TeX should be pronounced like "Tek". And most people do pronounce it that way in my experience.
- froh42 1y ago
  Knuth said it's Te<the greek X which Americans can't pronunce, so a k comes out when they try to>.

by 7bit 1y ago

eviks 1y ago

"To be fair" they did call it "χrust", so not X, though still wouldn't get you C

7bit 1y ago
Exactly it still isn't pronounced crust. And it makes matters worse. Why would you name something in a way, that possibly only the Greek can write on their keyboard?

betaby 1y ago

From wikipedia "In Modern Greek, it has two distinct pronunciations: In front of high or front vowels (/e/ or /i/) it is pronounced as a voiceless palatal fricative [ç], as in German ich or like some pronunciations of "h" in English words like hew and human. In front of low or back vowels (/a/, /o/ or /u/) and consonants, it is pronounced as a voiceless velar fricative ([x]), as in German ach or Spanish j. This distinction corresponds to the ich-Laut and ach-Laut of German."

froh42 1y ago
"ch" sounds nothing like "k" in German. (Neither the "ich" nor the "ach" form). You could claim it if you'd speak Bavarian (Chiemsee starts with a "k", for "Chemie" people are diveded if it's "kehmee" or "shehmee"). So don't use weirdly constructed things as names with your own pronunciation instruction. That's a tragedeigh.
- SyrupThinker 1y ago
  I think it is somewhat ironic that you try to make a point that Chemie is an exception, when it is exactly the sort of example the claim is made from. Ich and Chemie are pretty similarly pronounced (some people say either with a harder k sound, ik, "kehmee"). Chemie also derives from the Greek χύμεία, so it contains the Chi to make the comparison. A similar case can also be made for Jesus Christus, I certainly think Christus' pronunciation starts like crust. And hey, if you derive the Greek root for it, you get Χριστός, which starts with Chi again. I think a better case can be made just arguing against mixing alphabets like this.
7bit 1y ago
So, you confirm what I just said?

hollerith 1y ago

OK, but Knuth did maintain that TeX should be pronounced like "Tek". And most people do pronounce it that way in my experience.

froh42 1y ago
Knuth said it's Te<the greek X which Americans can't pronunce, so a k comes out when they try to>.