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I'm pretty sure they know that. Especially as Starlink is brittle mostly because of its (rather disgusting at this point) founder figure and his ramblings. But

by jwr 1y ago

I'm pretty sure they know that. Especially as Starlink is brittle mostly because of its (rather disgusting at this point) founder figure and his ramblings. But this is armchair advice: what other options do they have and how do you fund them? (most of Starlink for the Ukrainian army is being paid for by Poland)

bamboozled 1y ago
Eutelsat OneWeb, I believe I read that it's already been deployed Ukraine. I might be wrong but I think I heard it on "Ukraine, the latest" podcast.
- inemesitaffia 1y ago
  Go look up how much it costs
  - bamboozled 1y ago
    You think Ukraine is paying full price?
    - inemesitaffia 1y ago
      Yes I do.
inemesitaffia 1y ago
>most of Starlink for the Ukrainian army is being paid for by Poland This isn't true either by $amount or number of dishes SATCOM is brittle because physics. Especially outside C band.
- jwr 1y ago
  > This isn't true either by $amount or number of dishes "Poland is the largest single contributor, paying approximately $50 million per year through its Digital Affairs Ministry for Starlink services in Ukraine. Poland has provided over 20,000 Starlink terminals and covers the ongoing subscription costs. As of recent reports, Poland has spent nearly 323 million PLN ($84 million) on more than 24,500 Starlink terminals over the past two years." (reuters) Or, if you'd like somewhat outdated info from Wikipedia: "As of December 2023, Poland remains the largest single contributor of Starlink terminals to Ukraine, providing 19,500 out of 47,000 delivered"
  - inemesitaffia 1y ago
    There are over 100k dishes in Ukraine. Most are privately purchased. That number represents the government(s) supplied numbers. Take a look at this contract. https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_HC101324F0143_9700_HC101323D9000_9700 https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_HC101324F0143_970... Also Poland is definitely paying public retail prices. The US on the other hand isn't.

by jwr 1y ago

bamboozled 1y ago

Eutelsat OneWeb, I believe I read that it's already been deployed Ukraine. I might be wrong but I think I heard it on "Ukraine, the latest" podcast.

inemesitaffia 1y ago
Go look up how much it costs
- bamboozled 1y ago
  You think Ukraine is paying full price?
  - inemesitaffia 1y ago
    Yes I do.

inemesitaffia 1y ago

>most of Starlink for the Ukrainian army is being paid for by Poland This isn't true either by $amount or number of dishes SATCOM is brittle because physics. Especially outside C band.

jwr 1y ago
> This isn't true either by $amount or number of dishes "Poland is the largest single contributor, paying approximately $50 million per year through its Digital Affairs Ministry for Starlink services in Ukraine. Poland has provided over 20,000 Starlink terminals and covers the ongoing subscription costs. As of recent reports, Poland has spent nearly 323 million PLN ($84 million) on more than 24,500 Starlink terminals over the past two years." (reuters) Or, if you'd like somewhat outdated info from Wikipedia: "As of December 2023, Poland remains the largest single contributor of Starlink terminals to Ukraine, providing 19,500 out of 47,000 delivered"
- inemesitaffia 1y ago
  There are over 100k dishes in Ukraine. Most are privately purchased. That number represents the government(s) supplied numbers. Take a look at this contract. https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_HC101324F0143_9700_HC101323D9000_9700 https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_HC101324F0143_970... Also Poland is definitely paying public retail prices. The US on the other hand isn't.