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Everything I heard about Starlink indicates that it's very fickle and unreliable.

by buyucu 1y ago

bboygravity 1y ago
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- Gasp0de 1y ago
  The propaganda machine is called X and he bought it to brainwash people, so don't feel to bad about it. Good that you realized!
- Hikikomori 1y ago
  Just an awkward hand movement.
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mrweasel 1y ago
Really, everyone I've talked to has loved it. Granted they've all either live or work in remote areas where it has completely changed their lives. Those who live in remote areas can now actually work from home reliably and those who work on ships or in remote parts of world can now call home daily. It's probably down to your expectations. Starlink won't replace a fiber connection, but if you only have a satellite connection or dial up, I can't see it being anything other than an improvement. One concern I do have is if Starlink is down, there aren't really any backup. On the other hand I also only have one fiber connection at home. It's just that I could get a COAX hookup by tomorrow.
- madaxe_again 1y ago
  I use starlink and find it fast and reliable - far more reliable than any cabled connection I ever had elsewhere, and faster than the fibre that’s available around me, which is contended to hell and back. Yes, it’s gigabit in theory, but in practice you get 20Mb/s, and any time there’s a power outage, which is often, it’s down.
  - cubix 1y ago
    And if you live a rural, mostly wooded area like I do, fallen trees are constantly taking out the fiber services for days at a time.
    - SirHumphrey 1y ago
      They aren’t buried? Or do the roots tear the fibre?
      - mrweasel 1y ago
        A lot of countries still uses poles for cables, and fiber. It's always super weird to see when you're from an area that buries everything except high voltage powerlines. For areas with frequent earthquakes I think poles are preferred because it's easier to fix broken cables.
        SirHumphrey 1y ago
        From the part of the Europe where I am from power lines are rarely buried, however fiber is universally buried so I haven’t even considered it could not be.
      - cubix 1y ago
        They’re not buried around here for the most part. I think the population density is just too low to justify the cost.
GJim 1y ago
The technology, or the business owner? Because the fickleness and unreliability of the latter is a serious concern. Once other LEO constellations come online, who is going to stick with Starlink, knowing they may pull the plug at anytime on a whim of "Space Karen"?
- mschuster91 1y ago
  > Once other LEO constellations come online ... it's time to "pick one's poison" again. It's either Amazon which is US based (and thus vulnerable to the same kind of political pressure that Starlink is) or it's IRIS2 (which is good if you're European, but might not be that optimal if US-EU relations go catastrophically sour). On top of that, Kuiper isn't live yet (IIRC scheduled until 2026 for minimal coverage) and IRIS2 is only predicted for 2029 (and everyone who knows a thing about European cooperation projects knows that this is a seriously optimistic example - we don't even have a flight proven cheap rocket yet).
Gustomaximus 1y ago
Not my experience or people around me (rural area so it's common). WFH with no fibre and patchy mobile so starlink is a godsend. The most common outage is a regular 3am reboot. Otherwise outages are infrequent and typically a few seconds. Also the latency is surprisingly good, it's not fibre but can game FPS on it.
inglor_cz 1y ago
Maybe this is what you wanted to hear? Because that is not the general experience at all. For a service whose necessary parts (the satellites) move in a rather hostile space environment, Starlink doesn't have that many outages. I am on a Vodafone backbone buried optic cable here in CZ and yet there are a few unplanned short outages each month. Sometimes as short as 10 seconds, but working on a remote screen like my wife does, you definitely notice it.

Everything I heard about Starlink indicates that it's very fickle and unreliable.

by buyucu 1y ago

Everything I heard about Starlink indicates that it's very fickle and unreliable.

bboygravity 1y ago

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Gasp0de 1y ago
The propaganda machine is called X and he bought it to brainwash people, so don't feel to bad about it. Good that you realized!
Hikikomori 1y ago
Just an awkward hand movement.

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mrweasel 1y ago

Really, everyone I've talked to has loved it. Granted they've all either live or work in remote areas where it has completely changed their lives. Those who live in remote areas can now actually work from home reliably and those who work on ships or in remote parts of world can now call home daily. It's probably down to your expectations. Starlink won't replace a fiber connection, but if you only have a satellite connection or dial up, I can't see it being anything other than an improvement. One concern I do have is if Starlink is down, there aren't really any backup. On the other hand I also only have one fiber connection at home. It's just that I could get a COAX hookup by tomorrow.

madaxe_again 1y ago
I use starlink and find it fast and reliable - far more reliable than any cabled connection I ever had elsewhere, and faster than the fibre that’s available around me, which is contended to hell and back. Yes, it’s gigabit in theory, but in practice you get 20Mb/s, and any time there’s a power outage, which is often, it’s down.
- cubix 1y ago
  And if you live a rural, mostly wooded area like I do, fallen trees are constantly taking out the fiber services for days at a time.
  - SirHumphrey 1y ago
    They aren’t buried? Or do the roots tear the fibre?
    - mrweasel 1y ago
      A lot of countries still uses poles for cables, and fiber. It's always super weird to see when you're from an area that buries everything except high voltage powerlines. For areas with frequent earthquakes I think poles are preferred because it's easier to fix broken cables.
      - SirHumphrey 1y ago
        From the part of the Europe where I am from power lines are rarely buried, however fiber is universally buried so I haven’t even considered it could not be.
    - cubix 1y ago
      They’re not buried around here for the most part. I think the population density is just too low to justify the cost.

GJim 1y ago

The technology, or the business owner? Because the fickleness and unreliability of the latter is a serious concern. Once other LEO constellations come online, who is going to stick with Starlink, knowing they may pull the plug at anytime on a whim of "Space Karen"?

mschuster91 1y ago
> Once other LEO constellations come online ... it's time to "pick one's poison" again. It's either Amazon which is US based (and thus vulnerable to the same kind of political pressure that Starlink is) or it's IRIS2 (which is good if you're European, but might not be that optimal if US-EU relations go catastrophically sour). On top of that, Kuiper isn't live yet (IIRC scheduled until 2026 for minimal coverage) and IRIS2 is only predicted for 2029 (and everyone who knows a thing about European cooperation projects knows that this is a seriously optimistic example - we don't even have a flight proven cheap rocket yet).

Gustomaximus 1y ago

Not my experience or people around me (rural area so it's common). WFH with no fibre and patchy mobile so starlink is a godsend. The most common outage is a regular 3am reboot. Otherwise outages are infrequent and typically a few seconds. Also the latency is surprisingly good, it's not fibre but can game FPS on it.

inglor_cz 1y ago

Maybe this is what you wanted to hear? Because that is not the general experience at all. For a service whose necessary parts (the satellites) move in a rather hostile space environment, Starlink doesn't have that many outages. I am on a Vodafone backbone buried optic cable here in CZ and yet there are a few unplanned short outages each month. Sometimes as short as 10 seconds, but working on a remote screen like my wife does, you definitely notice it.