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> You're missing a very important reason > 4 - There is a very active anti-LLM activist movement ... All I can say to this is that my position is Large Langua

> You're missing a very important reason > 4 - There is a very active anti-LLM activist movement ... All I can say to this is that my position is Large Language Models (LLM's) are a combination of algorithms and data. As as such, for me they do not qualify as anything to be either "pro" or "anti", let alone a participant of an activist movement.

perching_aix 1y ago
They were not talking about LLMs being participants of anything, but people who are against LLMs in whatever capacity. Surely people can be participants of a movement.
- AdieuToLogic 1y ago
  >> All I can say to this is that my position is Large Language Models (LLM's) are a combination of algorithms and data. >> As as such, for me they do not qualify as anything to be either "pro" or "anti", let alone a participant of an activist movement. > They were not talking about LLMs being participants of anything ... Clearly I was referencing LLM's being something to foment "an activist movement" in an attempt to de-escalate the implication of there being some kind of "anti-LLM activist movement." > ... but people who are against LLMs in whatever capacity. Surely people can be participants of a movement. At this point your replies to my posts appear to be intentionally adversarial.
  - perching_aix 1y ago
    > Clearly I was referencing LLM's being something to foment "an activist movement" in an attempt to de-escalate the implication of there being some kind of "anti-LLM activist movement." Well, no, that really wasn't clear to me at all. I don't think it was clear in general either. > At this point your replies to my posts appear to be intentionally adversarial. Not my actual intention, apologies, although I 100% understand if at this point that is not at all believable.
  - ants_everywhere 1y ago
    > in an attempt to de-escalate the implication of there being some kind of "anti-LLM activist movement." Are you trying to imply that there isn't an anti-LLM activist movement? There certainly is you can just google it https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=anti%20llm%20activist%20movement https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=anti%20llm%20activist%... a subreddit dedicated to the anti-AI movement https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/ "what is the goal of the so-called anti-ai movement" https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1mn3hh8/what_is_the_goal_of_the_socalled_antiai_movement/ https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1mn3hh8/what_is_the... "how do we build an anti-ai movement" https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1hk3wuj/how_do_we_build_an_antiai_movement/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1hk3wuj/how_do_... "The New Luddites Aren’t Backing Down Activists are organizing to combat generative AI and other technologies—and reclaiming a misunderstood label in the process." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/02/new-luddites-ai-protest/677327/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/02/new-l... "Anti-AI Explained: Why Resistance to Artificial Intelligence Is Growing As AI tools become more advanced, a growing chorus of critics is raising alarms about job loss, misinformation and other societal risks. Learn what’s fueling the anti-AI movement." https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/anti-ai https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/anti-ai "together against AI" https://togetheragainstai.com/ https://togetheragainstai.com/ and on and on I invite people to become familiar with the movement and their arguments and compare them to the Gentoo rationale.

perching_aix 1y ago

They were not talking about LLMs being participants of anything, but people who are against LLMs in whatever capacity. Surely people can be participants of a movement.

AdieuToLogic 1y ago
>> All I can say to this is that my position is Large Language Models (LLM's) are a combination of algorithms and data. >> As as such, for me they do not qualify as anything to be either "pro" or "anti", let alone a participant of an activist movement. > They were not talking about LLMs being participants of anything ... Clearly I was referencing LLM's being something to foment "an activist movement" in an attempt to de-escalate the implication of there being some kind of "anti-LLM activist movement." > ... but people who are against LLMs in whatever capacity. Surely people can be participants of a movement. At this point your replies to my posts appear to be intentionally adversarial.
- perching_aix 1y ago
  > Clearly I was referencing LLM's being something to foment "an activist movement" in an attempt to de-escalate the implication of there being some kind of "anti-LLM activist movement." Well, no, that really wasn't clear to me at all. I don't think it was clear in general either. > At this point your replies to my posts appear to be intentionally adversarial. Not my actual intention, apologies, although I 100% understand if at this point that is not at all believable.
- ants_everywhere 1y ago
  > in an attempt to de-escalate the implication of there being some kind of "anti-LLM activist movement." Are you trying to imply that there isn't an anti-LLM activist movement? There certainly is you can just google it https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=anti%20llm%20activist%20movement https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=anti%20llm%20activist%... a subreddit dedicated to the anti-AI movement https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/ "what is the goal of the so-called anti-ai movement" https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1mn3hh8/what_is_the_goal_of_the_socalled_antiai_movement/ https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1mn3hh8/what_is_the... "how do we build an anti-ai movement" https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1hk3wuj/how_do_we_build_an_antiai_movement/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1hk3wuj/how_do_... "The New Luddites Aren’t Backing Down Activists are organizing to combat generative AI and other technologies—and reclaiming a misunderstood label in the process." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/02/new-luddites-ai-protest/677327/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/02/new-l... "Anti-AI Explained: Why Resistance to Artificial Intelligence Is Growing As AI tools become more advanced, a growing chorus of critics is raising alarms about job loss, misinformation and other societal risks. Learn what’s fueling the anti-AI movement." https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/anti-ai https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/anti-ai "together against AI" https://togetheragainstai.com/ https://togetheragainstai.com/ and on and on I invite people to become familiar with the movement and their arguments and compare them to the Gentoo rationale.