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a rechargeable battery with only 1 charge cycle is considered "waste" ?

charcircuit 1y ago
Embedded within a disposable vape, yes. Plenty of things that are reusable are waste. When someone finishes milk jug, most people throw it away and buy a new one instead of going to get it refilled. Pretty much everything thrown away could be used for something else.
- tgwil 1y ago
  That doesn't mean it's waste, that just means people are lazy and don't care about wasting things. It's only "waste" because people make it waste. If you don't waste it it's not waste.
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    It's not just laziness. It may not be financially worth it to do including the personal labor you have to do compared to throwing something in a trash can.
    - tgwil 1y ago
      This is the mentality that is creating poison planet. Bad mentality.
      - charcircuit 1y ago
        As long as waste is being responsibly managed it will not poison the planet.
        ehnto 1y ago
        It is not being responsibly managed, it is poisoning the planet. You can defer responsibility to others such as the producers and recyclers, and I think we should. But it doesn't mean we can't control what we buy and throw away as well, especially if we know better which we do.
        charcircuit 1y ago
        >It is not being responsibly managed Then this is the problem that needs to be fixed. Ewaste only contributes to a couple percent of overall waste. Saving just ewaste doesn't stop the vast majority of waste entering the landfill.
      - vel0city 1y ago
        I'd love to be able to go to a grocer and just refill my milk jug and my soap bottle and my beer growler but that's just not available to me. Well, there are a few breweries that will fill my growler. Priorities.
    - Liftyee 1y ago
      Not everything in life needs to be financially worth it... If repurposing otherwise "disposable" resources brings them enjoyment and it's a reasonable time spent, why shouldn't they? Ultimately, it's not your storage space being used for this. Why not let them live?
      - charcircuit 1y ago
        This repurposing is of only one he owns and the novelty of reusing it will likely wear off within a couple of weeks as having an extremely weak web server is not particularly useful. It may not be my storage space but people in this site do have a higher chance of hoarding ewaste for no logical reasons and I'm hoping that pointing this out can help people realize that they don't need to hold on to every random gadget forever.
        ruperthair 1y ago
        Making something out of it and getting a hit on HN would easily be 'enough' for me. Your replies read like you've had some personal issue with a hoarder. Digging into that may help you in the long run.
- mrheosuper 1y ago
  The plastic that holds the milk is not designed to be reuseable, and plastic wear down is a thing. But the battery inside disposable vape is designed to be rechargeable.
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    It's designed to be rechargeable due to economies of scale. It's cheaper for them to use rechargeable batteries in a disposable product I think they should be able to. They shouldn't have to purposefully have to break the recharging functionality to sell it.
    - mrheosuper 1y ago
      how about making it less ... disposable? Make the battery replaceable, so you can use your own battery?

Embedded within a disposable vape, yes. Plenty of things that are reusable are waste. When someone finishes milk jug, most people throw it away and buy a new one instead of going to get it refilled. Pretty much everything thrown away could be used for something else.

tgwil 1y ago
That doesn't mean it's waste, that just means people are lazy and don't care about wasting things. It's only "waste" because people make it waste. If you don't waste it it's not waste.
- charcircuit 1y ago
  It's not just laziness. It may not be financially worth it to do including the personal labor you have to do compared to throwing something in a trash can.
  - tgwil 1y ago
    This is the mentality that is creating poison planet. Bad mentality.
    - charcircuit 1y ago
      As long as waste is being responsibly managed it will not poison the planet.
      - ehnto 1y ago
        It is not being responsibly managed, it is poisoning the planet. You can defer responsibility to others such as the producers and recyclers, and I think we should. But it doesn't mean we can't control what we buy and throw away as well, especially if we know better which we do.
        charcircuit 1y ago
        >It is not being responsibly managed Then this is the problem that needs to be fixed. Ewaste only contributes to a couple percent of overall waste. Saving just ewaste doesn't stop the vast majority of waste entering the landfill.
    - vel0city 1y ago
      I'd love to be able to go to a grocer and just refill my milk jug and my soap bottle and my beer growler but that's just not available to me. Well, there are a few breweries that will fill my growler. Priorities.
  - Liftyee 1y ago
    Not everything in life needs to be financially worth it... If repurposing otherwise "disposable" resources brings them enjoyment and it's a reasonable time spent, why shouldn't they? Ultimately, it's not your storage space being used for this. Why not let them live?
    - charcircuit 1y ago
      This repurposing is of only one he owns and the novelty of reusing it will likely wear off within a couple of weeks as having an extremely weak web server is not particularly useful. It may not be my storage space but people in this site do have a higher chance of hoarding ewaste for no logical reasons and I'm hoping that pointing this out can help people realize that they don't need to hold on to every random gadget forever.
      - ruperthair 1y ago
        Making something out of it and getting a hit on HN would easily be 'enough' for me. Your replies read like you've had some personal issue with a hoarder. Digging into that may help you in the long run.
mrheosuper 1y ago
The plastic that holds the milk is not designed to be reuseable, and plastic wear down is a thing. But the battery inside disposable vape is designed to be rechargeable.
- charcircuit 1y ago
  It's designed to be rechargeable due to economies of scale. It's cheaper for them to use rechargeable batteries in a disposable product I think they should be able to. They shouldn't have to purposefully have to break the recharging functionality to sell it.
  - mrheosuper 1y ago
    how about making it less ... disposable? Make the battery replaceable, so you can use your own battery?