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I'm confused by why anybody would buy one of these when entirely reusable versions exist, but then vaping seems unwise to me in general except as a way to quit
by Zak 1y ago
I'm confused by why anybody would buy one of these when entirely reusable versions exist, but then vaping seems unwise to me in general except as a way to quit tobacco.
- bloqs 1y agoi have owned lots. they taste better than most permanent vapes. ive tried the whole buy all the best components and perfect juices etc with various tanks of different flavours. disposables just work and taste good, no leaks. they also have a logical end point like a pack of cigarettes. Its nice to switch flavour more frequently, and the packet/vape body colours pressed deep monkey brain buttons for fruit etc
- helf 1y ago[dead]
- gilfoy 1y agoLooking back, the Juul product seems preferable to the current situation
- MarcelOlsz 1y agoI did the math and Juul was 47x more expensive than the liquids (this is in Canada). Then I switched to the juice vapes, and finally to kick the juice vaping I picked up pipe tobacco. Pipe tobacco is way cheaper than cigs nevermind vapes, the highest quality, and tastes incredibly good (also, you can also get that "first cigarette headrush" every time if you like by inhaling, works every time).
- kristianp 1y agoI used to love the smell of my Grandfather's pipe smoke. I still enjoy the occasional 2nd-hand smell of a rollup. Is pipe tobacco different to rollies?
- zxexz 1y agoSubstantially. It is way more coarse, usually much more moist as well. Tends to be more “pure” tobacco with less additives, though I’m sure that’s not universal. I know somebody who does not smoke but buys it to keep in cabinets and various drawers because they love the smell. I must admit I am partial to the smell as well.
- MarcelOlsz 1y agoThis is an excellent idea, ty.
- MarcelOlsz 1y agoWhat the other guy said. Do yourself a favour and pickup some Mr. B's Crème brûlée just to smell it. It's like the best thing I've ever smelt even outside of tobacco. It's not an acquired taste where if you say something smells amazing it's implied that it's within the range of something objectively nasty.
- gilfoy 1y agoI meant in terms of e waste mostly, disposable pod vs disposable device
- reassess_blind 1y agoYeah, the sweetener they put in the disposables is like crack. If a liquid could replicate it then the switch to reusable would be a no brainer, but I never found one. Alas I switched to nicotine gum and haven’t looked back.
- seabird 1y ago50mg/ml disposable vape liquid tasting better than the freebase stuff is a crazy take. I haven't met a single person who was there before the modern disposable trash that doesn't think it's markedly worse. It tastes like gas station vape juice circa 2012. Good reusable systems have been around for 10 years now. Disposables sell well because people like to think that they can quit whenever they want without having to abandon an investment (never mind that the investment in a refillable system is literally cheaper than a single disposable vape in many cases).
- bloqs 1y agogas station vape juice circa 2012 seems like a touch exaggerated. ive extensively researched making my permanent vape setup taste as good, and its down to the amount and type of sweetener used which doesnt seem to be available. ive even bought the brand of liquid owned by the disposable company with the same branding. it's just not quite there. you also have to accept the market for them, according to what you have said above shouldnt exist, but it does
- loumf 1y agoBut, then where would you host your website?
- Ygg2 1y agoUsed milk carton. It probably has more TFlops than Commodore 64.
- jimmaswell 1y agoVaping nicotine doesn't seem that bad to me. AFAICT the dangers outside simple addictiveness are moderate lung irritation and cardiovascular effects, but no strong evidence of cancer caused by vaping alone - far better than cigarettes, and still better than an equivalent drinking problem.
- xp84 1y agoThis is why to me it’s so damn disappointing to me that vaping is targeted so forcefully by the various scolds in the “regulate everything” camp when smoking isn’t yet eradicated. Things like banning flavor and stuff. They want it to be as unpleasant as tobacco, which reduces the likelihood of people switching from tobacco to vaping, killing many of those smokers as a way to “save” teens from taking up an overall not-very-dangerous habit.
- rasse 1y agoThere are numerous other options for supporting smoking cessation that do not risk lung injury.
- dns_snek 1y agoCounter-point: For someone who's used to smoking or vaping, the craving to "take a puff" can be a very strong, maybe stronger than the chemical dependence on nicotine itself. I noticed that in myself when I was trying to quit, vaping nicotine-free liquids helped my cravings more than nicotine itself. It didn't help the physical withdrawal symptoms but it mysteriously stopped the cravings for a while.
- xp84 1y agoSure, and removing one appealing option that many people like still means some people will keep smoking who would have quit.
- guywithahat 1y agoMaybe I'm just an old geeser but when I went back to grad school I was absolutely shocked at how many people vaped, and it seemed to have been because they started smoking flavored vapes. People would go to a party, either in high school or college, and the party would be permeated by some sweet smell. Curious kids/people would investigate, try vaping, and eventually get their own, becoming addicted. As far as I can tell, banning flavored vapes has had a significant impact on reducing vaping/smoking new users, which is the ultimate goal. People who are currently addicted should primarily be motivated to quit, not find better tasting alternatives
- s-lambert 1y agoIn Australia you need a prescription to get nicotine liquid but every convenience store in any big city sells disposables illegally for cheap.
- csomar 1y agoBecause reusable versions are a hassle. Cleaning, Charging, Changing Batteries, Changing liquid, etc. Whereas with reusable, well, you just puff and worry about nothing. Which is why people vape in the first place :)