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> If you must use Android the reasonable alternative being... ?
by asah 1y ago
> If you must use Android
the reasonable alternative being... ?
- fsflover 1y agoGNU/Linux phones.
- TeMPOraL 1y agoName three? Unfortunately, "reasonable" generally means "can do the things typically done with smartphones these days", which include things like banking, media streaming, and civic stuff - things mediated by the very systems whose vendors aren't just embracing remote attestation, but actually driving its proliferation. For better or worse[0], this is not a technical problem - it's a social/political one. Technology created it, by making remote attestation possible - but the actual problem is with why companies want to use it. -- [0] - Definitely worse. Technical problems are easy.
- incompatible 1y agoMaybe you need two phones then, one for the civic stuff and the other for private communication.
- tiku 1y agoPerhaps just websites for communication then, through tor or some other protocols.
- TeMPOraL 1y agoI don't care about this kind of private communication. I care about automating and debullshittifying my life, which includes stuff like banking and civics. I didn't learn to program computers so I could use it to shitpost more privately. I learned it so I can make machines deal with things for me the way I want them to.
- fsflover 1y ago> Name three? Openmoko, Pinephone, Librem 5
- concinds 1y agoAre there any that aren't laughably insecure? No? Oh well.
- fsflover 1y agoAccording to which threat model?
- fifteen1506 1y agoYou got me. None. I do wish ubports + waydroid would be a reasonable alternative -- but it's wishful thinking.
- bboygravity 1y agoMy only hope is Tesla bringing out a phone with it's own OS at some point.
- macNchz 1y agoTesla...certainly isn't top of mind when I think about makers of technology products that permit true ownership of the hardware / respect their users' privacy.
- tiku 1y agoAlso government will not allow it.
- soraminazuki 1y agoA phone made by a car manufacturer that abuses access to car cameras to spy on customers in their homes and share videos of them being naked? You can't even pay me to make me use such crap. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-workers-video-naked-customer-b2315922.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-work...
- frm88 1y agoFor people looking for a new phone it could be either Jolla [0] or Fairphone 6 [1]. Both come with their own OS. [0] https://jolla-devices.com/sailfish_devices/ https://jolla-devices.com/sailfish_devices/ [1] https://shop.fairphone.com/de/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system https://shop.fairphone.com/de/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operatin...