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> This tilt towards later-in-life divorce is happening for a mix of reasons, studies suggest. Lives are longer than they used to be, for a start, and older coup

> This tilt towards later-in-life divorce is happening for a mix of reasons, studies suggest. Lives are longer than they used to be, for a start, and older couples may be less willing to put up with unfulfilling marriages than before. Makes sense too if you stay together for the kids, then the kids aren’t kids anymore

giantg2 1y ago
I generally agree, but they're focused mostly on 65+ age group. That would make more sense around 45-55 if people are having kids in their 30s.
- Swizec 1y ago
  > I generally agree, but they're focused mostly on 65+ age group Another aspect possibly driving this: In USA a lot of people get divorced immediately after a cancer (or similar) diagnosis. That way only one of you goes bankrupt and you get to keep half your lifetime savings.
  - dottjt 1y ago
    On the contrary, you may get paid out a massive life insurance claim.
    - abirch 1y ago
      You don’t have to be married to be the beneficiary of life insurance policy. I believe you only need a financial interest.
      - LorenPechtel 1y ago
        And a divorce will not cancel an existing policy even if it puts you in a position you couldn't get a new one.
  - mhurron 1y ago
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    - codeulike 1y ago
      Not sure if it was that paper, but there was a similar paper showing this phenomenon which later turned out to contain an error: https://retractionwatch.com/2015/07/21/to-our-horror-widely-reported-study-suggesting-divorce-is-more-likely-when-wives-fall-ill-gets-axed/ https://retractionwatch.com/2015/07/21/to-our-horror-widely-... People who left the study were actually miscoded as getting divorced. After the adjustment the correlation was less but was still there.
      - mhurron 1y ago
        No, they're not referencing the same paper.
        daymanstep 1y ago
        The paper that you cited is the 2009 study: Glantz, M. J., Chamberlain, M. C., Liu, Q., Hsieh, C. C., Edwards, K. R., Van Horn, A., & Recht, L. (2009). Gender disparity in the rate of partner abandonment in patients with serious medical illness. Cancer, 115(22), 5237-5242. https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1002/cncr.24577 https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10... That paper has been debunked. Its conclusions were based on a coding error. When the coding error is corrected for the gender disparity disappears. Please stop citing this paper without adding that it was debunked. See for more details: https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/ https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/
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    - daymanstep 1y ago
      > If the wife gets ill, the marriage has about a 20% chance of ending because of it. If the husband becomes ill, there is only a 3% chance. Wrong. That paper has been debunked already. See: https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/ https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/
  - kortilla 1y ago
    That is not happening in any meaningful volume.
- quesera 1y ago
  A few trends which might be relevant: - First-time parenthood is frequently occurring later in life - Couples are more often having (additional) children at later ages - Children are sometimes not "launching" until later in their 20s. So, ~35yo first-time parents and/or ~40yo youngest-child parents, plus ~25-30yo children moving out ... That can get you to 65-70 years pretty easily.
- jacobolus 1y ago
  Alternately, it might be that the cohort now age 65+ was more likely to divorce than the previous generation at every age throughout their lives, and there were some kind of generational effects involved.
wer232essf 1y ago
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giantg2 1y ago

I generally agree, but they're focused mostly on 65+ age group. That would make more sense around 45-55 if people are having kids in their 30s.

Swizec 1y ago
> I generally agree, but they're focused mostly on 65+ age group Another aspect possibly driving this: In USA a lot of people get divorced immediately after a cancer (or similar) diagnosis. That way only one of you goes bankrupt and you get to keep half your lifetime savings.
- dottjt 1y ago
  On the contrary, you may get paid out a massive life insurance claim.
  - abirch 1y ago
    You don’t have to be married to be the beneficiary of life insurance policy. I believe you only need a financial interest.
    - LorenPechtel 1y ago
      And a divorce will not cancel an existing policy even if it puts you in a position you couldn't get a new one.
- mhurron 1y ago
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  - codeulike 1y ago
    Not sure if it was that paper, but there was a similar paper showing this phenomenon which later turned out to contain an error: https://retractionwatch.com/2015/07/21/to-our-horror-widely-reported-study-suggesting-divorce-is-more-likely-when-wives-fall-ill-gets-axed/ https://retractionwatch.com/2015/07/21/to-our-horror-widely-... People who left the study were actually miscoded as getting divorced. After the adjustment the correlation was less but was still there.
    - mhurron 1y ago
      No, they're not referencing the same paper.
      - daymanstep 1y ago
        The paper that you cited is the 2009 study: Glantz, M. J., Chamberlain, M. C., Liu, Q., Hsieh, C. C., Edwards, K. R., Van Horn, A., & Recht, L. (2009). Gender disparity in the rate of partner abandonment in patients with serious medical illness. Cancer, 115(22), 5237-5242. https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1002/cncr.24577 https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10... That paper has been debunked. Its conclusions were based on a coding error. When the coding error is corrected for the gender disparity disappears. Please stop citing this paper without adding that it was debunked. See for more details: https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/ https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - daymanstep 1y ago
    > If the wife gets ill, the marriage has about a 20% chance of ending because of it. If the husband becomes ill, there is only a 3% chance. Wrong. That paper has been debunked already. See: https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/ https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/
- kortilla 1y ago
  That is not happening in any meaningful volume.
quesera 1y ago
A few trends which might be relevant: - First-time parenthood is frequently occurring later in life - Couples are more often having (additional) children at later ages - Children are sometimes not "launching" until later in their 20s. So, ~35yo first-time parents and/or ~40yo youngest-child parents, plus ~25-30yo children moving out ... That can get you to 65-70 years pretty easily.
jacobolus 1y ago
Alternately, it might be that the cohort now age 65+ was more likely to divorce than the previous generation at every age throughout their lives, and there were some kind of generational effects involved.

wer232essf 1y ago

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