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Not really. We are masters of the water. We build land out of water (like the island in Dubai, some airport islands in Asia, a whole new province called Flevola

Not really. We are masters of the water. We build land out of water (like the island in Dubai, some airport islands in Asia, a whole new province called Flevoland). Make dikes and dunes to withstand the worst storms in a hundred years, since 1953. So we could prepare for rising sea levels which doesn’t rise that quickly

roywiggins 1y ago
Well, good luck with that. > If the circulation weakens, Northwestern Europe would experience the most pronounced cooling. Under global warming of +2°C, a cold extreme that currently occurs once every ten years in the Netherlands could drop to -20°C — around fifteen degrees colder than in the pre-industrial climate, according to the same climate model. In Scotland the cold extreme could reach -30°C, a full 23 degrees colder than in the late 19th century. https://www.uu.nl/en/publication/what-will-happen-to-europe-if-the-gulf-stream-weakens-significantly https://www.uu.nl/en/publication/what-will-happen-to-europe-...
- peterspath 1y ago
  I haven’t read into the details yet. But scientist discover something new every year. We know for sure when we arrive at that point. Also -20 sounds better than +40. But that’s a preference lol
  - ohdeargodno 1y ago
    That's not -20 OR +40. You're getting both. And while you're busy touting your preferences, I'm sure your farmers will be happy about their crops freezing, their land becoming unusable, your building being thoroughly unable to withstand such massive temperature swings and cracking, making it even worse to live in. >We know for sure when we arrive at that point. The moment you do arrive at the -20 every year point means that: * You've spent the previous 40 years in denial that it happens more and more often * You're on the path to -30 already, with no way to stop it. So, no, we won't "wait and see", no.
  - saubeidl 1y ago
    I'd rather not bet the survival of the human race on "scientists discover something new every year"
bastawhiz 1y ago
The rate of sea level rise since the turn of the century has nearly doubled to almost half a centimeter each year. At the current rate is increase, within a human lifespan, some Dutch dikes will be underwater. If the ice caps fully melted, that's 60-70 meters of sea level rise. Well before we reach that point, the Netherlands will be lost. There's simply no building dikes which approach that level. Even if that's not within your lifetime, it's not outside of the realm of the possibility that your grandchildren would be facing that eventuality.
ponector 1y ago
Does it matter how quickly it rise? Eventually sea will go 1m up, how dikes will help? Are you going to build a seawall for entire country?

roywiggins 1y ago

Well, good luck with that. > If the circulation weakens, Northwestern Europe would experience the most pronounced cooling. Under global warming of +2°C, a cold extreme that currently occurs once every ten years in the Netherlands could drop to -20°C — around fifteen degrees colder than in the pre-industrial climate, according to the same climate model. In Scotland the cold extreme could reach -30°C, a full 23 degrees colder than in the late 19th century. https://www.uu.nl/en/publication/what-will-happen-to-europe-if-the-gulf-stream-weakens-significantly https://www.uu.nl/en/publication/what-will-happen-to-europe-...

peterspath 1y ago
I haven’t read into the details yet. But scientist discover something new every year. We know for sure when we arrive at that point. Also -20 sounds better than +40. But that’s a preference lol
- ohdeargodno 1y ago
  That's not -20 OR +40. You're getting both. And while you're busy touting your preferences, I'm sure your farmers will be happy about their crops freezing, their land becoming unusable, your building being thoroughly unable to withstand such massive temperature swings and cracking, making it even worse to live in. >We know for sure when we arrive at that point. The moment you do arrive at the -20 every year point means that: * You've spent the previous 40 years in denial that it happens more and more often * You're on the path to -30 already, with no way to stop it. So, no, we won't "wait and see", no.
- saubeidl 1y ago
  I'd rather not bet the survival of the human race on "scientists discover something new every year"

bastawhiz 1y ago

The rate of sea level rise since the turn of the century has nearly doubled to almost half a centimeter each year. At the current rate is increase, within a human lifespan, some Dutch dikes will be underwater. If the ice caps fully melted, that's 60-70 meters of sea level rise. Well before we reach that point, the Netherlands will be lost. There's simply no building dikes which approach that level. Even if that's not within your lifetime, it's not outside of the realm of the possibility that your grandchildren would be facing that eventuality.

ponector 1y ago

Does it matter how quickly it rise? Eventually sea will go 1m up, how dikes will help? Are you going to build a seawall for entire country?