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We’re going to end with a strong red/blue state divide on regulatory frameworks. I wonder if the vaccine guideline coalitions point to emerging regulatory consi

We’re going to end with a strong red/blue state divide on regulatory frameworks. I wonder if the vaccine guideline coalitions point to emerging regulatory consistency among blue states on this as well.

ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
That could lend itself well to studies about the effects of some of these regulations. Maybe not the most ethical way to approach this, though.
- tremon 1y ago
  Why would this not be ethical to study? It's not like the researchers are taking an active role in creating this situation. In fact, I would say it is more unethical not to research this, given that we already know the PFAS will readily migrate out of the red-flag states.
BryanBigs 1y ago
Well pre COVID, Silicon Valley had one of the highest non-vaccination rates amount kids in day-care. So at least then it wasn't a red/blue thing at all.
Nifty3929 1y ago
I like this actually - let different states try different things, and see how they work out. As the results become more certain, states will feel pressure to adopt the policies that are working well. And there's still room for different states to retain different policies that are better suited to them individually.
- tstrimple 1y ago
  Exactly. Just like the pressure of being the last state in basically every single metric has empowered Mississippi to turn things around. Oh wait what? Mississippi is more fucked up than ever and shows zero signs of ever joining a civilized nation? Maybe they just haven’t hit rock bottom quite hard enough. Surely then conservative politics will turn things around!
  - Nifty3929 1y ago
    Like it or not - Mississippi is doing what their citizens want as they demonstrate at their own ballot box. It's not up to me to decide what's best for them. And in the worst case, if a person there really feels strongly about some particular issue - it's not THAT hard for them to simply move to a more agreeable state. We should embrace diversity and mutual respect - not simply assume that other people doing things differently are wrong and need to be fixed/corrected.
UmGuys 1y ago
Going to? We do. Virtually all red states are poor, uneducated and unhealthy compared to blue states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index_score https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... Regarding vaccines, if you live in a red state you probably won't be able to get one unless your a senior citizen, travel to another state, or possibly with a doctor's prescription.

ndsipa_pomu 1y ago

That could lend itself well to studies about the effects of some of these regulations. Maybe not the most ethical way to approach this, though.

tremon 1y ago
Why would this not be ethical to study? It's not like the researchers are taking an active role in creating this situation. In fact, I would say it is more unethical not to research this, given that we already know the PFAS will readily migrate out of the red-flag states.

BryanBigs 1y ago

Well pre COVID, Silicon Valley had one of the highest non-vaccination rates amount kids in day-care. So at least then it wasn't a red/blue thing at all.

Nifty3929 1y ago

I like this actually - let different states try different things, and see how they work out. As the results become more certain, states will feel pressure to adopt the policies that are working well. And there's still room for different states to retain different policies that are better suited to them individually.

tstrimple 1y ago
Exactly. Just like the pressure of being the last state in basically every single metric has empowered Mississippi to turn things around. Oh wait what? Mississippi is more fucked up than ever and shows zero signs of ever joining a civilized nation? Maybe they just haven’t hit rock bottom quite hard enough. Surely then conservative politics will turn things around!
- Nifty3929 1y ago
  Like it or not - Mississippi is doing what their citizens want as they demonstrate at their own ballot box. It's not up to me to decide what's best for them. And in the worst case, if a person there really feels strongly about some particular issue - it's not THAT hard for them to simply move to a more agreeable state. We should embrace diversity and mutual respect - not simply assume that other people doing things differently are wrong and need to be fixed/corrected.

UmGuys 1y ago

Going to? We do. Virtually all red states are poor, uneducated and unhealthy compared to blue states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index_score https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... Regarding vaccines, if you live in a red state you probably won't be able to get one unless your a senior citizen, travel to another state, or possibly with a doctor's prescription.