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Yesterday, Fox News advocated "involuntary lethal injection" for innocent homeless people (that post has been flagged and [dead] already). They certainly won't

Yesterday, Fox News advocated "involuntary lethal injection" for innocent homeless people (that post has been flagged and [dead] already). They certainly won't be fired. The day Kirk died, Fox was quite literally calling for war. Then when we found out it was a conservative shooter, it's still the left's fault because them not mourning Kirk is worse than the killing and the President says he "couldn't care less" about bridging the divide between Americans. It's just ridiculous how brazen it is at this point.

zahlman 1y ago
> Yesterday, Fox News No, one specific show host. > for innocent homeless people No, specifically for those who are mentally ill, and only if they refuse help. Still abhorrent, but also unrelated. > The day Kirk died, Fox was quite literally calling for war. I legitimately have no idea what you're referring to. > Then when we found out it was a conservative shooter, it's still the left's fault Shootings are the fault of the shooter and no other person. We did not find out that the shooter is conservative. This is speculation, and many of the initial bases for this speculation were quite spurious. > because them not mourning Kirk is worse than the killing As far as I can tell, nobody has said anything remotely like this. > the President says he "couldn't care less" about bridging the divide between Americans. The political divide. And it's not clear what he could in principle do about it.
- TimorousBestie 1y ago
  > No, one specific show host. In his role as a spokesperson of the network, at a performance he has not yet been censured for, afaik. Until Fox puts out a response, he represents them. > I legitimately have no idea what you're referring to. Jesse Watters called for vengeance and retribution on The Five, said that liberals are “at war with us.” GP is a reasonable rephrasing. > The political divide. And it's not clear what he could in principle do about it. Use the “bully pulpit” of the presidency positively for once? He’s the least powerless person in the country. No president before has ever wielded the power and authority he does.
  - Tadpole9181 1y ago
    I appreciate you responding on my behalf, thank you.
  - zahlman 1y ago
    > In his role as a spokesperson of the network Prior to being fired, was Dowd a "spokesperson of MSNBC"? I don't think so, and I don't think this is a fair way to characterize Kilmeade either. > GP is a reasonable rephrasing. I'm not really convinced. > Use the “bully pulpit” of the presidency positively for once? It beggars belief that this would lead to de-escalation from Trump's opponents. In fact, I've seen him take a conciliatory tone before, only to get decontextualized and further vilified.
    - TimorousBestie 1y ago
      > Prior to being fired, was Dowd a "spokesperson of MSNBC"? During the 24ish hours it took MSNBC to fire him and issue a public statement, yes. This isn’t rocket science. > I'm not really convinced. Your double standard in this matter is evident.
      - zahlman 1y ago
        > During the 24ish hours it took MSNBC to fire him and issue a public statement, yes. I disagree, and don't understand your basis for the claim. > Your double standard in this matter is evident. I don't know what you're talking about.

zahlman 1y ago

> Yesterday, Fox News No, one specific show host. > for innocent homeless people No, specifically for those who are mentally ill, and only if they refuse help. Still abhorrent, but also unrelated. > The day Kirk died, Fox was quite literally calling for war. I legitimately have no idea what you're referring to. > Then when we found out it was a conservative shooter, it's still the left's fault Shootings are the fault of the shooter and no other person. We did not find out that the shooter is conservative. This is speculation, and many of the initial bases for this speculation were quite spurious. > because them not mourning Kirk is worse than the killing As far as I can tell, nobody has said anything remotely like this. > the President says he "couldn't care less" about bridging the divide between Americans. The political divide. And it's not clear what he could in principle do about it.

TimorousBestie 1y ago
> No, one specific show host. In his role as a spokesperson of the network, at a performance he has not yet been censured for, afaik. Until Fox puts out a response, he represents them. > I legitimately have no idea what you're referring to. Jesse Watters called for vengeance and retribution on The Five, said that liberals are “at war with us.” GP is a reasonable rephrasing. > The political divide. And it's not clear what he could in principle do about it. Use the “bully pulpit” of the presidency positively for once? He’s the least powerless person in the country. No president before has ever wielded the power and authority he does.
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
  I appreciate you responding on my behalf, thank you.
- zahlman 1y ago
  > In his role as a spokesperson of the network Prior to being fired, was Dowd a "spokesperson of MSNBC"? I don't think so, and I don't think this is a fair way to characterize Kilmeade either. > GP is a reasonable rephrasing. I'm not really convinced. > Use the “bully pulpit” of the presidency positively for once? It beggars belief that this would lead to de-escalation from Trump's opponents. In fact, I've seen him take a conciliatory tone before, only to get decontextualized and further vilified.
  - TimorousBestie 1y ago
    > Prior to being fired, was Dowd a "spokesperson of MSNBC"? During the 24ish hours it took MSNBC to fire him and issue a public statement, yes. This isn’t rocket science. > I'm not really convinced. Your double standard in this matter is evident.
    - zahlman 1y ago
      > During the 24ish hours it took MSNBC to fire him and issue a public statement, yes. I disagree, and don't understand your basis for the claim. > Your double standard in this matter is evident. I don't know what you're talking about.