yes, but we're talking of waging war against actual NATO and the EU, not a country which was vaguely friendly towards the west. No european country has actuall

yes, but we're talking of waging war against actual NATO and the EU, not a country which was vaguely friendly towards the west. No european country has actually put a lot of effort into supporting Ukraine, but if an actual EU+NATO member was attacked things would be different. Even without the US. It's not accidental that Russia invaded Ukraine and Georgia but not the baltic states.