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Sadly, normal free Jabber/XMPP does not seem to be a viable alternative. On Android, sure (though the clients are not too great at reconnecting/noticing-connect

by aw3c2 14y ago

Sadly, normal free Jabber/XMPP does not seem to be a viable alternative. On Android, sure (though the clients are not too great at reconnecting/noticing-connection-loss/reporting-message-reception) but on iOS apparently you cannot run such things in the background. At least the situation was dire when I tried to convince some iOS friends to use XMPP instead of SMS last winter. http://monal.im/ http://monal.im/ looked most promising but turned out to crash or only work when active, I don't fully remember. Maybe it got better.

morsch 14y ago
You could run the real XMPP client on a server and use the native push messaging system to wake up the mobile client. This would also enable receiving "offline" messages while the mobile device is not on a network or turned off. Of course, this would let the person operating the "real" XMPP client read your messages; but the person operating the XMPP server can do that already, so there isn't any real change -- either way you should be using OTR messaging at all times. In the peer to peer spirit of XMPP, such a project should make it really easy to run this virtual client yourself locally or on a cheap cloud server. Maybe something like that exists already? Anybody wanna build it?
- guruz 14y ago
  We've been trying to build something supporting that, but so far with far less than full steam. Too busy with client projects right now :) http://woboq.im/ http://woboq.im/
vvhn 14y ago
imo.im on iOS works perfectly fine with google talk and i receive messages when it's not running as well.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
  imo.im is a web service, not a raw XMPP client.
  - anonymoushn 14y ago
    While this is true, using imo.im is probably significantly easier than setting up your own XMPP client on your own box that will send push notifications to your phone and achieves the same thing.
anurodhp 14y ago
Hi, I am the developer of monal. It is a real, direct xmpp client and remains open in the background as long as you have an internet connection. It even has preliminary support for Jingle voip.

by aw3c2 14y ago

morsch 14y ago

You could run the real XMPP client on a server and use the native push messaging system to wake up the mobile client. This would also enable receiving "offline" messages while the mobile device is not on a network or turned off. Of course, this would let the person operating the "real" XMPP client read your messages; but the person operating the XMPP server can do that already, so there isn't any real change -- either way you should be using OTR messaging at all times. In the peer to peer spirit of XMPP, such a project should make it really easy to run this virtual client yourself locally or on a cheap cloud server. Maybe something like that exists already? Anybody wanna build it?

guruz 14y ago
We've been trying to build something supporting that, but so far with far less than full steam. Too busy with client projects right now :) http://woboq.im/ http://woboq.im/

vvhn 14y ago

imo.im on iOS works perfectly fine with google talk and i receive messages when it's not running as well.

TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
imo.im is a web service, not a raw XMPP client.
- anonymoushn 14y ago
  While this is true, using imo.im is probably significantly easier than setting up your own XMPP client on your own box that will send push notifications to your phone and achieves the same thing.

anurodhp 14y ago

Hi, I am the developer of monal. It is a real, direct xmpp client and remains open in the background as long as you have an internet connection. It even has preliminary support for Jingle voip.