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The thing this article didn't mention and the author likely doesn't know is that there's a guide going around instructing people on how to apply for H1B jobs on

The thing this article didn't mention and the author likely doesn't know is that there's a guide going around instructing people on how to apply for H1B jobs on forums like 4chan.

exhilaration 1y ago
I've got out of work friends that would love to see this guide. Please share.
- PyWoody 1y ago
  Job Listing Site Highlighting H-1B Positions So Americans Can Apply - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44892321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44892321 - August 2025 (108 comments) https://jobs.now https://jobs.now
- kccqzy 1y ago
  This is unlikely to be of use to your friends. Companies hide these job openings because they aren't real: they are filled by a real person right now. If someone applies, they won't be hired because there's no extra headcount. They will just be rejected after a resume review. Companies usually don't even extend interviews to such candidates. Applying only delays the green card process of a foreigner since they will need to rewrite a job description to be even more tailored to that already employed person.
  - lazide 1y ago
    So…. Locals shouldn’t delay or poison the process for a foreigner that would take ‘their’ role, while bored on unemployment - why exactly?
    - lazyasciiart 1y ago
      Locals who are trying to get jobs for themselves shouldn't be told that they can get a job through this process.
      - lazide 1y ago
        So you’re admitting that applying for jobs they should be able to get, in a place they should be able to apply in, under federal law is not going to work? Sounds like fraud to me. Or a crime of some sort. If they do it, and it clearly doesn’t work, it even sounds like something they could take to court. In fact, something that is perhaps their duty to take to court.
        bubblethink 1y ago
        You're reading too much into it. It's a case of bad UX. The jobs do not exist. The actual job application/interview etc. happened years ago, when it did exist, and everyone, including locals, had the same shot at it. When the job existed, someone was hired for it, and it happened to be someone on a visa. In order to keep that person employed in this job and get them a green card, the government requires that the job be advertised again afresh. It's a non-sensical requirement that was added because some politican or lobbyist asked for it. The natural way to add protectionism to this model would have been to add it at the outset, but that clearly wouldn't work for the economy. So a compromise was engineered. Companies can hire anyone generally as long as they are, in principle, temporary. When it comes to keeping them permanently, the government requires that they do this charade of posting ads again and doing a market test etc.
        lazide 1y ago
        That is not a UX issue, that is blatant immigration fraud my man. The reason they are required to readvertise is because the visa they are on is for jobs that cannot be filled by a local, so if the job can actually be filled by a local, that person should lose the visa and have to leave (or find another job that supports them being here). That isn’t a technicality, except the prior admins allowed it to be. Does that suck for the person on the visa? Yeah. But guess what, it also sucks for the unemployed locals. So either the gov’t actively throws locals under the bus, or follows the rules. When everything is going up and to the right, or no one can see why they’re struggling, it’s easy to gloss over these ‘small details’. But they’re not so small in reality, eh?
- buckle8017 1y ago
  Unfortunately they will not hire Americans even if they're qualified because what they really want are slaves. With H1B fired means deported. The people following the guide are just making it impossible to review all of the applications.
mirrorsaurus 1y ago
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- tomhow 1y ago
  You can't comment like this on Hacker News. Please avoid flamebait and slurs against groups of people. The guidelines make it clear we expect much better than this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
y-curious 1y ago
So what if it comes from 4chan? I think it's a good thing for citizens to try and get jobs that should be going to them, no matter the source
- buckle8017 1y ago
  Wasn't saying it's bad.

The thing this article didn't mention and the author likely doesn't know is that there's a guide going around instructing people on how to apply for H1B jobs on forums like 4chan.

exhilaration 1y ago

I've got out of work friends that would love to see this guide. Please share.

PyWoody 1y ago
Job Listing Site Highlighting H-1B Positions So Americans Can Apply - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44892321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44892321 - August 2025 (108 comments) https://jobs.now https://jobs.now
kccqzy 1y ago
This is unlikely to be of use to your friends. Companies hide these job openings because they aren't real: they are filled by a real person right now. If someone applies, they won't be hired because there's no extra headcount. They will just be rejected after a resume review. Companies usually don't even extend interviews to such candidates. Applying only delays the green card process of a foreigner since they will need to rewrite a job description to be even more tailored to that already employed person.
- lazide 1y ago
  So…. Locals shouldn’t delay or poison the process for a foreigner that would take ‘their’ role, while bored on unemployment - why exactly?
  - lazyasciiart 1y ago
    Locals who are trying to get jobs for themselves shouldn't be told that they can get a job through this process.
    - lazide 1y ago
      So you’re admitting that applying for jobs they should be able to get, in a place they should be able to apply in, under federal law is not going to work? Sounds like fraud to me. Or a crime of some sort. If they do it, and it clearly doesn’t work, it even sounds like something they could take to court. In fact, something that is perhaps their duty to take to court.
      - bubblethink 1y ago
        You're reading too much into it. It's a case of bad UX. The jobs do not exist. The actual job application/interview etc. happened years ago, when it did exist, and everyone, including locals, had the same shot at it. When the job existed, someone was hired for it, and it happened to be someone on a visa. In order to keep that person employed in this job and get them a green card, the government requires that the job be advertised again afresh. It's a non-sensical requirement that was added because some politican or lobbyist asked for it. The natural way to add protectionism to this model would have been to add it at the outset, but that clearly wouldn't work for the economy. So a compromise was engineered. Companies can hire anyone generally as long as they are, in principle, temporary. When it comes to keeping them permanently, the government requires that they do this charade of posting ads again and doing a market test etc.
        lazide 1y ago
        That is not a UX issue, that is blatant immigration fraud my man. The reason they are required to readvertise is because the visa they are on is for jobs that cannot be filled by a local, so if the job can actually be filled by a local, that person should lose the visa and have to leave (or find another job that supports them being here). That isn’t a technicality, except the prior admins allowed it to be. Does that suck for the person on the visa? Yeah. But guess what, it also sucks for the unemployed locals. So either the gov’t actively throws locals under the bus, or follows the rules. When everything is going up and to the right, or no one can see why they’re struggling, it’s easy to gloss over these ‘small details’. But they’re not so small in reality, eh?
buckle8017 1y ago
Unfortunately they will not hire Americans even if they're qualified because what they really want are slaves. With H1B fired means deported. The people following the guide are just making it impossible to review all of the applications.

mirrorsaurus 1y ago

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tomhow 1y ago
You can't comment like this on Hacker News. Please avoid flamebait and slurs against groups of people. The guidelines make it clear we expect much better than this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

y-curious 1y ago

So what if it comes from 4chan? I think it's a good thing for citizens to try and get jobs that should be going to them, no matter the source

buckle8017 1y ago
Wasn't saying it's bad.