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oblio 1y ago
What about these cases happening outside of the US?
techbro92 1y ago
At certain companies and it’s org structures yeah
DontchaKnowit 1y ago
I never understood this redefinition of the word... Racism means prejudice based on race. Period. Thats all it means. Redefining the word like you suggested is moving the political goalposts
- cess11 1y ago
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  - tux3 1y ago
    I think you've earned a Godwin point. "The Nazis weren't prejudiced" isn't a great start to an argument, even as a strawman of someone else's position.
  - hdlothia 1y ago
    How do the nazis qualify as not prejudiced?
  - DontchaKnowit 1y ago
    Ism doesnt mean systenic hierarchy. Does gigantism mean a systemic hierarchy of giants? Does botulism mean systemic hierarchy of botulinum. Hobestly what the hell are you talking about?
johnsmith1840 1y ago
That's a made up deffinition only recently invented. Racism is hating another group of people based on physical or cultural background. The US is the most powerful country does that mean if I go to india I can't experience racism because technically India is "weaker" ? Isn't this example literally a group of stronger indians being racist to weaker individuals (job applicants)? This also implies they are not hiring black, asian, or hispanic people either but because they're a minority that's ok? Such a bad take.
- cess11 1y ago
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  - Podrod 1y ago
    This is an incredibly weird hill to die on.
- lazide 1y ago
  Also, having lived in Asia before - Americans are totally amateur racists compared to Asians (well, east, southeast, and south anyway. Never lived in Central Asia). Those aunties and uncles can discriminate you down to damn near the block you came from, even if it was on the other side of the planet, and tell everyone exactly why you’re a bad idea for reasons even you didn’t know about. Signed, your good little gwailou.
baxtr 1y ago
So are you saying that if you were to put white people into a country that is systemically ruled by non-whites, they can’t be racist there?
tomhow 1y ago
Please don't comment in this cross-examination style on HN. The guidelines ask us not to do this. Please observe the guidelines if you want to participate here, especially these ones: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Eschew flamebait. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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by cess11 1y ago

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oblio 1y ago

What about these cases happening outside of the US?

techbro92 1y ago

At certain companies and it’s org structures yeah

DontchaKnowit 1y ago

I never understood this redefinition of the word... Racism means prejudice based on race. Period. Thats all it means. Redefining the word like you suggested is moving the political goalposts

cess11 1y ago
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- tux3 1y ago
  I think you've earned a Godwin point. "The Nazis weren't prejudiced" isn't a great start to an argument, even as a strawman of someone else's position.
- hdlothia 1y ago
  How do the nazis qualify as not prejudiced?
- DontchaKnowit 1y ago
  Ism doesnt mean systenic hierarchy. Does gigantism mean a systemic hierarchy of giants? Does botulism mean systemic hierarchy of botulinum. Hobestly what the hell are you talking about?

johnsmith1840 1y ago

That's a made up deffinition only recently invented. Racism is hating another group of people based on physical or cultural background. The US is the most powerful country does that mean if I go to india I can't experience racism because technically India is "weaker" ? Isn't this example literally a group of stronger indians being racist to weaker individuals (job applicants)? This also implies they are not hiring black, asian, or hispanic people either but because they're a minority that's ok? Such a bad take.

cess11 1y ago
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- Podrod 1y ago
  This is an incredibly weird hill to die on.
lazide 1y ago
Also, having lived in Asia before - Americans are totally amateur racists compared to Asians (well, east, southeast, and south anyway. Never lived in Central Asia). Those aunties and uncles can discriminate you down to damn near the block you came from, even if it was on the other side of the planet, and tell everyone exactly why you’re a bad idea for reasons even you didn’t know about. Signed, your good little gwailou.

baxtr 1y ago

So are you saying that if you were to put white people into a country that is systemically ruled by non-whites, they can’t be racist there?

tomhow 1y ago

Please don't comment in this cross-examination style on HN. The guidelines ask us not to do this. Please observe the guidelines if you want to participate here, especially these ones: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Eschew flamebait. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html