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The best jobs are with large corporations with offices all over the world. Workers from all over the world are competing with each other, regardless of the Kafk

by sagarm 1y ago

The best jobs are with large corporations with offices all over the world. Workers from all over the world are competing with each other, regardless of the Kafkaesque state of American immigrant policy.

toomuchtodo 1y ago
Ohio senator introduces 25% tax on companies that outsource jobs overseas - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45146528 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45146528 - September 2025 https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/new-moreno-bill-would-crack-down-on-outsourcing-fund-american-workers/ https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/new-moreno-bill... https://www.moreno.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-HIRE-Act.pdf https://www.moreno.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The... (if you're a company with no US nexus or presence, and no access to the market, your hiring practices are up to your local jurisdiction; if you want access to the US market, you can hire in the US, I find this to be very reasonable)
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  This bill is a hunk of Swiss cheese. Great for lawyers and bankers and possibly global tech companies, depending on how it parses out in court.
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    I'm willing to walk before running. Have to start somewhere.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > willing to walk before running. Have to start somewhere It doesn’t walk anywhere. It’s another handout to finance and law. The B2B carve-out and lack of border adjustments makes this a regressive tax on consumers and manufacturers to fund tech, law and finance. (The only jobs this would materially cover are those in call centres for consumers. Which in practice, means voice LLMs.) Like, I made money from tariffs. I will do well from the OBBA. I will do well from this bill. But American consumers and workers will keep getting screwed, and I’m not sure how this playbook keeps working.
      - lovich 1y ago
        >… I’m not sure how this playbook keeps working. Just toss 170 billion to one of your various police forces so you’ve got the manpower to tamp down any tantrums from the people. It’s a pretty well worn tactic
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > toss 170 billion to one of your various police forces so you’ve got the manpower to tamp down any tantrums from the people I am missing your argument. Moreno’s bill pumps money out of the poor into the pockets of the wealthy. I am wealthy. I would benefit from his bill. My point is the exercise is a red herring. (I am not sure what yours is.)
        lovich 1y ago
        Sorry, I was making an oblique reference to the part of the OBBB that increased ICE’s budget to 170 billion. My point was that I think the powers at be agree with you that this playbook is unstable and are preparing for that eventuality
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        Two wrongs don’t make a right. Blowing the deficit so idiots can play cowboys and Indians is dumb. So is creating stupid barriers to doing business in America, barriers trivially circumvented with capital and connections.
- epolanski 1y ago
  If you're a US company that wants access to the Italian market you can hire in Italy. I find this very reasonable.
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by sagarm 1y ago

toomuchtodo 1y ago

Ohio senator introduces 25% tax on companies that outsource jobs overseas - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45146528 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45146528 - September 2025 https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/new-moreno-bill-would-crack-down-on-outsourcing-fund-american-workers/ https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/new-moreno-bill... https://www.moreno.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-HIRE-Act.pdf https://www.moreno.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The... (if you're a company with no US nexus or presence, and no access to the market, your hiring practices are up to your local jurisdiction; if you want access to the US market, you can hire in the US, I find this to be very reasonable)

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
This bill is a hunk of Swiss cheese. Great for lawyers and bankers and possibly global tech companies, depending on how it parses out in court.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  I'm willing to walk before running. Have to start somewhere.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > willing to walk before running. Have to start somewhere It doesn’t walk anywhere. It’s another handout to finance and law. The B2B carve-out and lack of border adjustments makes this a regressive tax on consumers and manufacturers to fund tech, law and finance. (The only jobs this would materially cover are those in call centres for consumers. Which in practice, means voice LLMs.) Like, I made money from tariffs. I will do well from the OBBA. I will do well from this bill. But American consumers and workers will keep getting screwed, and I’m not sure how this playbook keeps working.
    - lovich 1y ago
      >… I’m not sure how this playbook keeps working. Just toss 170 billion to one of your various police forces so you’ve got the manpower to tamp down any tantrums from the people. It’s a pretty well worn tactic
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > toss 170 billion to one of your various police forces so you’ve got the manpower to tamp down any tantrums from the people I am missing your argument. Moreno’s bill pumps money out of the poor into the pockets of the wealthy. I am wealthy. I would benefit from his bill. My point is the exercise is a red herring. (I am not sure what yours is.)
        lovich 1y ago
        Sorry, I was making an oblique reference to the part of the OBBB that increased ICE’s budget to 170 billion. My point was that I think the powers at be agree with you that this playbook is unstable and are preparing for that eventuality
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        Two wrongs don’t make a right. Blowing the deficit so idiots can play cowboys and Indians is dumb. So is creating stupid barriers to doing business in America, barriers trivially circumvented with capital and connections.
epolanski 1y ago
If you're a US company that wants access to the Italian market you can hire in Italy. I find this very reasonable.

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