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One thing that GTK lost in the transition to GTK2 was working well over slow Internet connections. I remember how even on a dial up modem you got pretty accept
by jandrese 1y ago
One thing that GTK lost in the transition to GTK2 was working well over slow Internet connections. I remember how even on a dial up modem you got pretty acceptable performance out of a GTK1 app, so long as it wasn't shoving big bitmaps around. GTK2 on the other hand was always dog slow over remote X connections for no apparent reason.
- xantronix 1y agoYou actually hit the nail on the head; pixbuf/pixmap font rendering on the client side rather than X server side text rendering.
- pjmlp 1y agoNote that on X, client and server are inverted.
- dpassens 1y agoBut GP used client and server correctly, no? In the traditional model, the server renders the text it received from the client. Nowadays, the client renders it itself and pushes the whole bitmap to the server.
- pjmlp 1y agoPushing the whole bitmap is much slower over dialup, versus a set of commands.
- dpassens 1y agoI'm not disagreeing with you. I'm merely pointing out that you're not disagreeing with GP either.
- vidarh 1y agoYes? But older X code used to use server side font rendering. The move to client side is the new thing. So this still sounds like the original comment got it right, though I guess ordered in a way that might make it ambiguous.
- xantronix 1y agoIndeed, I probably could have made it more clear I was referring to the situation in Gtk 2, but I figured it was implicit given that, of Gtk 1 and Gtk 2, only the latter renders text in client-side pixmaps/pixbufs.
- xantronix 1y agoI'm aware. The X server is the thing the user sits and operates. I've written quite a bit of Xlib code in my day.
- 1718627440 1y agoI don't get how it could be the other way around? The domain here is controlling a display. A server does stuff, a client requests it. The X naming is exactly natural. The server draws and controls hardware, the client requests it.
- pjmlp 1y agoOn traditional GUIs nomeclature (not X), client is what is running on the local hardware, server is where the actual process is running, aka thin clients. It is also the nomenclature when talking about RDP, VNC, and many others, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_desktop_software# https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_desktop_software#