> How do you get former founders to put in that kind of dedication to _someone else's company_? It is common for people to call themselves "founders" because t

> How do you get former founders to put in that kind of dedication to _someone else's company_? It is common for people to call themselves "founders" because they vibe-coded an app over the weekend and sometimes just because they have an idea for an app. Like an aspirational lifestyle thing. I suspect that is the kind of "founder" we are talking about here.