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0-based indexes are the best

2 points by Velocifyer 1y ago

eesmith 1y ago
Dijkstra, 1982, "Why numbering should start at zero" - https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831...
mtmail 1y ago
> That's why i write 11th september 2025 as "2025-8-10" I read that as satire or trying to bait people (tabs vs spaces etc).
- taylodl 1y ago
  Actually he's wrong, it would be 2024-8-10 - after all, to be consistent we'd need to start counting our years at 0.
  - Velocifyer 1y ago
    I already count years at 0
    - eimrine 1y ago
      What is the first letter of the alphabet, is it "B"?
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- Velocifyer 1y ago
  It was none of those.
- Jtsummers 1y ago
  It reads like a bad attempt at trolling. A better version would have been 5-10 paragraphs on why 0-based is better, and then hit the reader with the punchline. Instead, it's a very short piece that jumps straight to their reasoning that they're confused by things every grade schooler understands and so 0-based is better. Which is not a terribly persuasive argument. If they intended it to be a serious argument for 0-based indexes, they should not have admitted to being less intelligent than most 5-year-olds.
  - Velocifyer 1y ago
    It's not trolling. It seems like people hate my opinions so they call it trolling
  - Velocifyer 1y ago
    If this was trolling then i would have succeded, but i was trying to encourage you to use 0-based indexes so i failed
    - Jtsummers 1y ago
      > i was trying to encourage you to use 0-based indexes so i failed I'd say you never actually tried. Your argument was unserious. It was simply: "1-based indexing confuses me". Even if people try to treat it as an actual argument, it's weak. Spanish confuses me, should Spanish speakers switch to English on my behalf? No. I should learn Spanish, get an interpreter, or use tools to help me converse with them. And 1-based indexing is much simpler than Spanish. If it actually confuses you then something else is going on. Every 5-year-old I know understands it, that's a low bar to beat for an adult. Go see Dijkstra's argument for 0-based indexing, that's an actual argument. Yours was not.
pestatije 1y ago
lets see: whats the 1st number?
- Velocifyer 1y ago
  0
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  Other guy got it wrong. It's 2.

2 points by Velocifyer 1y ago

Dijkstra, 1982, "Why numbering should start at zero" - https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831...

mtmail 1y ago

> That's why i write 11th september 2025 as "2025-8-10" I read that as satire or trying to bait people (tabs vs spaces etc).

taylodl 1y ago
Actually he's wrong, it would be 2024-8-10 - after all, to be consistent we'd need to start counting our years at 0.
- Velocifyer 1y ago
  I already count years at 0
  - eimrine 1y ago
    What is the first letter of the alphabet, is it "B"?
deleted 1y ago
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Velocifyer 1y ago
It was none of those.
Jtsummers 1y ago
It reads like a bad attempt at trolling. A better version would have been 5-10 paragraphs on why 0-based is better, and then hit the reader with the punchline. Instead, it's a very short piece that jumps straight to their reasoning that they're confused by things every grade schooler understands and so 0-based is better. Which is not a terribly persuasive argument. If they intended it to be a serious argument for 0-based indexes, they should not have admitted to being less intelligent than most 5-year-olds.
- Velocifyer 1y ago
  It's not trolling. It seems like people hate my opinions so they call it trolling
- Velocifyer 1y ago
  If this was trolling then i would have succeded, but i was trying to encourage you to use 0-based indexes so i failed
  - Jtsummers 1y ago
    > i was trying to encourage you to use 0-based indexes so i failed I'd say you never actually tried. Your argument was unserious. It was simply: "1-based indexing confuses me". Even if people try to treat it as an actual argument, it's weak. Spanish confuses me, should Spanish speakers switch to English on my behalf? No. I should learn Spanish, get an interpreter, or use tools to help me converse with them. And 1-based indexing is much simpler than Spanish. If it actually confuses you then something else is going on. Every 5-year-old I know understands it, that's a low bar to beat for an adult. Go see Dijkstra's argument for 0-based indexing, that's an actual argument. Yours was not.

pestatije 1y ago

lets see: whats the 1st number?

Velocifyer 1y ago
0
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
Other guy got it wrong. It's 2.