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won't happen anytime soon I used to think that but I could see Valve changing that with time when enough gamers are able to switch without all the past stereot

by Bender 1y ago

won't happen anytime soon I used to think that but I could see Valve changing that with time when enough gamers are able to switch without all the past stereotypical issues assuming they work out all the kinks. My understanding is they are making decent progress. Adding to this more influencers are trying out Linux. Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of this. Once enough people move to Linux it will be a much bigger target for malware and other shenanigans, but I can see a path via gamers to popularity. The next challenge will be making it viable in all work places and be able to smoothly run all of the ancient proprietary applications. The incentive for executives I could envision for the work place is sandboxing the ancient applications to improve the security posture even if it's mostly check-boxes at first until proper capabilities are set or limited. Less down-time from ransomware and more people working once the kinks are worked out one organization at a time.

grigio 1y ago
Yes, the SteamOS/Valve of Linux Mobile needs to come
palata 1y ago
I love the SteamDeck, but I don't consider it a mobile phone. It can be a decent Linux Desktop, I think, and it's great for games. But that is a very different use-case than a mobile phone. Android/iOS are very much optimised to behave like smartphones, e.g. in terms of battery usage and security model. People complain about not having root access, while installing read-only Linux systems on their desktop. Really, the best shot we have at an alternative OS is to build on top of AOSP. And there you could actually convince OEMs to support you. At least I hope GrapheneOS eventually gets there.
- Bender 1y ago
  Have GrapheneOS devs opened it up so it can run on something other than a Pixel?
  - palata 1y ago
    Well it's open source. And you can use AOSP, or LineageOS, or CalyxOS, or /e/OS. I used /e/OS before moving to GrapheneOS (when I changed phone), and /e/OS runs on tons of devices, but they just don't get full updates. So you end up running with a device that hasn't received vendor security updates for years, which is worse than just using Stock Android. At least GrapheneOS does not support many devices (for good reasons), but the ones they support, they support really well.

by Bender 1y ago

grigio 1y ago

Yes, the SteamOS/Valve of Linux Mobile needs to come

palata 1y ago

I love the SteamDeck, but I don't consider it a mobile phone. It can be a decent Linux Desktop, I think, and it's great for games. But that is a very different use-case than a mobile phone. Android/iOS are very much optimised to behave like smartphones, e.g. in terms of battery usage and security model. People complain about not having root access, while installing read-only Linux systems on their desktop. Really, the best shot we have at an alternative OS is to build on top of AOSP. And there you could actually convince OEMs to support you. At least I hope GrapheneOS eventually gets there.

Bender 1y ago
Have GrapheneOS devs opened it up so it can run on something other than a Pixel?
- palata 1y ago
  Well it's open source. And you can use AOSP, or LineageOS, or CalyxOS, or /e/OS. I used /e/OS before moving to GrapheneOS (when I changed phone), and /e/OS runs on tons of devices, but they just don't get full updates. So you end up running with a device that hasn't received vendor security updates for years, which is worse than just using Stock Android. At least GrapheneOS does not support many devices (for good reasons), but the ones they support, they support really well.