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> mock USA for George Floyd Crime committed by the police. > Korean shop owners What's criminal about Korean shops? > school shootings Gun control means no

by pjc50 1y ago

> mock USA for George Floyd Crime committed by the police. > Korean shop owners What's criminal about Korean shops? > school shootings Gun control means no more school shootings. See Dunblane. > law must be enforced in multicultural nations Nobody ever said it shouldn't, but it has to be enforced in a fair and even-handed way.

dspillett 1y ago
> > school shootings > Gun control means no more school shootings. See Dunblane. If you are citing Dunblane as an example of gun control not working, perhaps consider the fact that you had to go back to 1996 to find such a bad example in a country with strong controls means that while it doesn't work 100% it does work really rather well. To find a similar example (>20 dead or injured in a school or related environment) in the US you'd to go all the way back into the mists of time to… August. Before that the last large school shooting was Uvale in 2022, still only three years not 29.
- happymellon 1y ago
  > If you are citing Dunblane as an example of gun control not working I don't see how you read that at all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre There was a school shooting, and we restricted gun access. An example of failure of those laws stopping any and all would have been the 2010 Cumbria shootings. But they are still few and far between.
- pjc50 1y ago
  > If you are citing Dunblane as an example of gun control not working No, the opposite. An example of the policy response working. The tragedy was met with universal revulsion and tightening of gun control. There were a few complaints that the tightening was a bit much, but there wasn't a significant faction of people who said that a few dead schoolchildren were a necessary sacrifice for their gun "rights". (School shootings seem to be a post-cold-war phenomenon. Dunblane was 1996; Columbine was 1999)
lesser-shadow 1y ago
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- MattPalmer1086 1y ago
  That was just something claimed on social media with no evidence to back it up. The autopsies showed he had fentanyl in his bloodstream, but not a lethal dose.
  - lesser-shadow 1y ago
    >"This is a fake news claim!" >"Even if it happened it was non-lethal" Which one is it? The social media "posts" you're talking about based that claim on that autopsy report.
eastbound 1y ago
> but it has to be enforced in a fair and even-handed way. In France, I’ve met a guy who went 180 times in custody between 13 and 18 years old. I asked him: “Wow. Was it racism?”, literally pointing at his face. “No”, he said.

by pjc50 1y ago

dspillett 1y ago

> > school shootings > Gun control means no more school shootings. See Dunblane. If you are citing Dunblane as an example of gun control not working, perhaps consider the fact that you had to go back to 1996 to find such a bad example in a country with strong controls means that while it doesn't work 100% it does work really rather well. To find a similar example (>20 dead or injured in a school or related environment) in the US you'd to go all the way back into the mists of time to… August. Before that the last large school shooting was Uvale in 2022, still only three years not 29.

happymellon 1y ago
> If you are citing Dunblane as an example of gun control not working I don't see how you read that at all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre There was a school shooting, and we restricted gun access. An example of failure of those laws stopping any and all would have been the 2010 Cumbria shootings. But they are still few and far between.
pjc50 1y ago
> If you are citing Dunblane as an example of gun control not working No, the opposite. An example of the policy response working. The tragedy was met with universal revulsion and tightening of gun control. There were a few complaints that the tightening was a bit much, but there wasn't a significant faction of people who said that a few dead schoolchildren were a necessary sacrifice for their gun "rights". (School shootings seem to be a post-cold-war phenomenon. Dunblane was 1996; Columbine was 1999)

lesser-shadow 1y ago

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MattPalmer1086 1y ago
That was just something claimed on social media with no evidence to back it up. The autopsies showed he had fentanyl in his bloodstream, but not a lethal dose.
- lesser-shadow 1y ago
  >"This is a fake news claim!" >"Even if it happened it was non-lethal" Which one is it? The social media "posts" you're talking about based that claim on that autopsy report.

eastbound 1y ago

> but it has to be enforced in a fair and even-handed way. In France, I’ve met a guy who went 180 times in custody between 13 and 18 years old. I asked him: “Wow. Was it racism?”, literally pointing at his face. “No”, he said.