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Just because you dream of something does not mean it will come true Never stop trying != succeed

CharlesW 1y ago
https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider This library (including the schema documentation) was largely written with the help of Claude, the AI model by Anthropic. Claude's output was thoroughly reviewed by Cloudflare engineers with careful attention paid to security and compliance with standards. Many improvements were made on the initial output, mostly again by prompting Claude (and reviewing the results). Check out the commit history to see how Claude was prompted and what code it produced. "NOOOOOOOO!!!! You can't just use an LLM to write an auth library!" "haha gpus go brrr" In all seriousness, two months ago (January 2025), I (@kentonv) would have agreed. I was an AI skeptic. I thought LLMs were glorified Markov chain generators that didn't actually understand code and couldn't produce anything novel. I started this project on a lark, fully expecting the AI to produce terrible code for me to laugh at. And then, uh... the code actually looked pretty good. Not perfect, but I just told the AI to fix things, and it did. I was shocked. To emphasize, this is not "vibe coded". Every line was thoroughly reviewed and cross-referenced with relevant RFCs, by security experts with previous experience with those RFCs. I was trying to validate my skepticism. I ended up proving myself wrong. Again, please check out the commit history -- especially early commits -- to understand how this went.
- dingnuts 1y ago
  > TO EMPHASIZE THIS WAS NOT VIBE CODED an expert using high powered autocomplete to successfully take a shortcut towards a well defined problem is not evidence of "AGI" or "the singularity" belief in "the singularity" is a religious belief. you people sound like evangelicals talking about the goddamned rapture
  - CharlesW 1y ago
    Sorry, yes, talk of “AGI” or “the singularity” is silly and I should’ve distanced myself from that bit of the post. But the use of AI to write durable code is happening now, like it or not.
    - Waraqa 1y ago
      It can only be categorized as durable after careful revision from human experts and extensive testing. This is what the article is about.
  - PicassoCTs 1y ago
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- JackSlateur 1y ago
  See the many comments on HN about this It took an expert and a whole team of software engineer to code "with IA" something well defined, well known, and with already lots of implementation in other languages Glorious indeed, we have created a new kind of printer ! (irony inside) (in conclusion, the above post from cloudflare is an ad)
1shooner 1y ago
See also centuries of chrysopoeia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopoeia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopoeia. To be fair, they did synthesize gold in 1984, "although the production cost is estimated to be a trillion times the market price of gold."
PicassoCTs 1y ago
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https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider This library (including the schema documentation) was largely written with the help of Claude, the AI model by Anthropic. Claude's output was thoroughly reviewed by Cloudflare engineers with careful attention paid to security and compliance with standards. Many improvements were made on the initial output, mostly again by prompting Claude (and reviewing the results). Check out the commit history to see how Claude was prompted and what code it produced. "NOOOOOOOO!!!! You can't just use an LLM to write an auth library!" "haha gpus go brrr" In all seriousness, two months ago (January 2025), I (@kentonv) would have agreed. I was an AI skeptic. I thought LLMs were glorified Markov chain generators that didn't actually understand code and couldn't produce anything novel. I started this project on a lark, fully expecting the AI to produce terrible code for me to laugh at. And then, uh... the code actually looked pretty good. Not perfect, but I just told the AI to fix things, and it did. I was shocked. To emphasize, this is not "vibe coded". Every line was thoroughly reviewed and cross-referenced with relevant RFCs, by security experts with previous experience with those RFCs. I was trying to validate my skepticism. I ended up proving myself wrong. Again, please check out the commit history -- especially early commits -- to understand how this went.

dingnuts 1y ago
> TO EMPHASIZE THIS WAS NOT VIBE CODED an expert using high powered autocomplete to successfully take a shortcut towards a well defined problem is not evidence of "AGI" or "the singularity" belief in "the singularity" is a religious belief. you people sound like evangelicals talking about the goddamned rapture
- CharlesW 1y ago
  Sorry, yes, talk of “AGI” or “the singularity” is silly and I should’ve distanced myself from that bit of the post. But the use of AI to write durable code is happening now, like it or not.
  - Waraqa 1y ago
    It can only be categorized as durable after careful revision from human experts and extensive testing. This is what the article is about.
- PicassoCTs 1y ago
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JackSlateur 1y ago
See the many comments on HN about this It took an expert and a whole team of software engineer to code "with IA" something well defined, well known, and with already lots of implementation in other languages Glorious indeed, we have created a new kind of printer ! (irony inside) (in conclusion, the above post from cloudflare is an ad)

1shooner 1y ago

See also centuries of chrysopoeia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopoeia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopoeia. To be fair, they did synthesize gold in 1984, "although the production cost is estimated to be a trillion times the market price of gold."

PicassoCTs 1y ago

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