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> I’m hoping the citizenry realizes who’s to blame here So... Apple? My headphones certainly don't have trouble connecting to a device of any manufacturer wit

by lucb1e 1y ago

> I’m hoping the citizenry realizes who’s to blame here So... Apple? My headphones certainly don't have trouble connecting to a device of any manufacturer without loss of functionality, but some of the "citizenry" seems to fall for marketing materials saying only apple can do things securely and in an integrated manner

Aurornis 1y ago
You can connect airpods to a non-apple device and use them for audio. This is more of an iPhone / iOS feature which uses the airpods as the microphone and audio output.
- lucb1e 1y ago
  Um, yes I can do that with headphones and earphones too on non-iPhone/iOS. Not understanding the thing that is a special iPhone feature that no other vendor should be allowed to interoperate with
  - intrasight 1y ago
    >Not understanding the thing that is a special iPhone feature that no other vendor should be allowed to interoperate with Exactly. And Apple intends to keep it that way ;)
- concinds 1y ago
  It's a purely software limitation. That is, it's a purely arbitrary limitation.
  - sroussey 1y ago
    Is it? Apple does weird Bluetooth and WiFi stuff in the H2 chip.
    - const_cast 1y ago
      They should stop doing that then and use standards like everyone else. If their protocol is really the bees knees, then just open it. But, they won't, because they rely on that moat to keep competitors out. It's exactly the same at the lightning cable.
      - jandrewrogers 1y ago
        > They should stop doing that then and use standards like everyone else. Many of those standards are objectively poor. I don’t want to live in the world where what we are allowed to use is defined by the lowest common denominator of mediocre engineers. Mediocrity über alles is what you are tacitly advocating for. I’ve been part of many standards processes where the majority democratic outcome was low-quality low-effort standards that were extraordinarily wasteful and inefficient because the people making the standards didn’t care, it was all about what was expedient for them. This is the default state of humanity. No one should be forced to comply with that garbage by regulatory fiat if they don’t want to.
        const_cast 1y ago
        > Many of those standards are objectively poor. Okay, fine, I already covered for this. If your new protocol is really the bees knees, then open it, problem solved. > No one should be forced to comply with that garbage by regulatory fiat if they don’t want to. They're not.
      - techpression 1y ago
        The standards are really bad and it’s not just about protocols but hardware. Should they give away every hardware design needed too? Lighting was an incredible boon in an era of micro usb, people just seem to forget how shit everyone else was. Now we have usb-c where companies are required to supply the port but doesn’t have to follow any actual specification, yay for standards.
        const_cast 1y ago
- digitalPhonix 1y ago
  > This is more of an iPhone / iOS feature which uses the airpods as the microphone and audio output. Right, so why can’t I connect my non-apple Bluetooth mic + audio output and get the same functionality? Either it’s an airpods thing and it should work airpods + any host device; or it’s an iPhone thing and should work with any iphone + audio device

by lucb1e 1y ago

Aurornis 1y ago

You can connect airpods to a non-apple device and use them for audio. This is more of an iPhone / iOS feature which uses the airpods as the microphone and audio output.

lucb1e 1y ago
Um, yes I can do that with headphones and earphones too on non-iPhone/iOS. Not understanding the thing that is a special iPhone feature that no other vendor should be allowed to interoperate with
- intrasight 1y ago
  >Not understanding the thing that is a special iPhone feature that no other vendor should be allowed to interoperate with Exactly. And Apple intends to keep it that way ;)
concinds 1y ago
It's a purely software limitation. That is, it's a purely arbitrary limitation.
- sroussey 1y ago
  Is it? Apple does weird Bluetooth and WiFi stuff in the H2 chip.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    They should stop doing that then and use standards like everyone else. If their protocol is really the bees knees, then just open it. But, they won't, because they rely on that moat to keep competitors out. It's exactly the same at the lightning cable.
    - jandrewrogers 1y ago
      > They should stop doing that then and use standards like everyone else. Many of those standards are objectively poor. I don’t want to live in the world where what we are allowed to use is defined by the lowest common denominator of mediocre engineers. Mediocrity über alles is what you are tacitly advocating for. I’ve been part of many standards processes where the majority democratic outcome was low-quality low-effort standards that were extraordinarily wasteful and inefficient because the people making the standards didn’t care, it was all about what was expedient for them. This is the default state of humanity. No one should be forced to comply with that garbage by regulatory fiat if they don’t want to.
      - const_cast 1y ago
        > Many of those standards are objectively poor. Okay, fine, I already covered for this. If your new protocol is really the bees knees, then open it, problem solved. > No one should be forced to comply with that garbage by regulatory fiat if they don’t want to. They're not.
    - techpression 1y ago
      The standards are really bad and it’s not just about protocols but hardware. Should they give away every hardware design needed too? Lighting was an incredible boon in an era of micro usb, people just seem to forget how shit everyone else was. Now we have usb-c where companies are required to supply the port but doesn’t have to follow any actual specification, yay for standards.
      - const_cast 1y ago
digitalPhonix 1y ago
> This is more of an iPhone / iOS feature which uses the airpods as the microphone and audio output. Right, so why can’t I connect my non-apple Bluetooth mic + audio output and get the same functionality? Either it’s an airpods thing and it should work airpods + any host device; or it’s an iPhone thing and should work with any iphone + audio device