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For me, I think absolutely. Sometimes to the point where I don't consider myself a 'real' programmer and feel like a faker any time I'm talking with someone mor

by afxjzs 14y ago

For me, I think absolutely. Sometimes to the point where I don't consider myself a 'real' programmer and feel like a faker any time I'm talking with someone more skilled than myself. I've always been much better at just getting things done than learning an entire catalog. Maybe it's because I spend half my time in the design space, where I also have no training and also feel like a 'faker'. I've looked in various apprenticeships like thoughtbot's and others, but at my age (30) I am not their usual target demo. It's why I'm so grateful for hackernews. i learn a lot of great stuff here from the 'real' developers that I can then apply in my day-to-day.

indiecore 14y ago
>Sometimes to the point where I don't consider myself a 'real' programmer and feel like a faker any time I'm talking with someone more skilled than myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome http://www.inc.com/magazine/20060901/handson-leadership.html http://www.inc.com/magazine/20060901/handson-leadership.html
- acedanger 14y ago
  Thanks for these. The first one describes me in many ways.
- hoka 14y ago
  interesting! As one of the top performers in my major as a senior, I think I self-inflict this a little bit to keep myself sharp / hungry. Kids call me crazy and say I've had all kinds of success, but I don't compare myself to the apathy I see around me and putting a chip on my shoulder compared to 'elite' devs has worked for me.
  - indiecore 14y ago
    Privately I think most people have this but don't want to admit it because they think someone would call them out on it. From what I see/experience it seems like the world mostly runs on people trying to impress other people because that's the only validation for our own skills we get.
acedanger 14y ago
I sometimes feel the exact same way. I graduated with CS degree but have never used any of that knowledge until I got my current contracting gig - almost 11 years later. During the first 10 years of my career, I used a language where I didn't have to "worry" about all of the kind of things I have to concern myself with now (using Java/MyBatis/Oracle). I've always wondered what it was like using a "real" programming language and now I know - it can be tough but it's not terribly difficult. I love using the tools I've been reading so much about on various blogs and whatnot.
think-large 14y ago
I just have to say that this post spoke to me. I've found things on this forum that have helped me tremendously at work. I have a minor in CS and I now work as a developer. I have been able to perform well at work, but I still feel inadequate for the job. I know some of the other developers do things better than I do, and I struggle to see how "I" am a Hacker. I really deem that a term for the elite in our field, and I don't think I'm there. But I'm learning and I love learning and that's what I think is really important as a programmer. Some of the things in this post I knew about others, I'm going to have to research but at least it's easy to find useful help nowadays. Thank you Hacker News.

by afxjzs 14y ago

indiecore 14y ago

>Sometimes to the point where I don't consider myself a 'real' programmer and feel like a faker any time I'm talking with someone more skilled than myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome http://www.inc.com/magazine/20060901/handson-leadership.html http://www.inc.com/magazine/20060901/handson-leadership.html

acedanger 14y ago
Thanks for these. The first one describes me in many ways.
hoka 14y ago
interesting! As one of the top performers in my major as a senior, I think I self-inflict this a little bit to keep myself sharp / hungry. Kids call me crazy and say I've had all kinds of success, but I don't compare myself to the apathy I see around me and putting a chip on my shoulder compared to 'elite' devs has worked for me.
- indiecore 14y ago
  Privately I think most people have this but don't want to admit it because they think someone would call them out on it. From what I see/experience it seems like the world mostly runs on people trying to impress other people because that's the only validation for our own skills we get.

acedanger 14y ago

I sometimes feel the exact same way. I graduated with CS degree but have never used any of that knowledge until I got my current contracting gig - almost 11 years later. During the first 10 years of my career, I used a language where I didn't have to "worry" about all of the kind of things I have to concern myself with now (using Java/MyBatis/Oracle). I've always wondered what it was like using a "real" programming language and now I know - it can be tough but it's not terribly difficult. I love using the tools I've been reading so much about on various blogs and whatnot.

think-large 14y ago

I just have to say that this post spoke to me. I've found things on this forum that have helped me tremendously at work. I have a minor in CS and I now work as a developer. I have been able to perform well at work, but I still feel inadequate for the job. I know some of the other developers do things better than I do, and I struggle to see how "I" am a Hacker. I really deem that a term for the elite in our field, and I don't think I'm there. But I'm learning and I love learning and that's what I think is really important as a programmer. Some of the things in this post I knew about others, I'm going to have to research but at least it's easy to find useful help nowadays. Thank you Hacker News.