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Irrlicht Engine – a cross-platform realtime 3D engine
- jsheard 1y agoNow there's a blast from the past. Irrlichts heyday was around ~2010, but it looks like there's still a few people keeping the lights on. TIL it was actually used in a commercial game (Bugsnax) relatively recently, although the devs said that it will be their final release on the engine. https://xcancel.com/luthyr/status/1271866001467080705 https://xcancel.com/luthyr/status/1271866001467080705
- garaetjjte 1y agoOgre3d also seems to be alive.
- steve_taylor 1y agoI remember a time when the topic of a lot of forum posts was Irrlicht vs. Ogre3D. If I recall correctly, Ogre3D was harder to get started with and had a smaller scope (just the scene graph), but was the better of the two 3D scene graph implementations.
- skocznymroczny 1y agoI miss the era of websites like flipcode (archives are still available https://www.flipcode.com/ https://www.flipcode.com/ ), people sharing screenshots of their OpenGL/DirectX engines. Nowadays making a 3D engine is more of a hobby, because you'll never catch up with the big ones.
- thegeomaster 1y agoWell this was a trip down the memory lane. I built a small game on Irrlicht at the time and I remember these discussions also. Irrlicht had its editor (irrEdit), a sound system (irrKlang), and some basic collision detection and FPS controller was built right into the engine. This was enough to get you a considerable way through a fully featured tech demo, at the very least. (I even remember Irrlicht including a beautiful first-person tech demo of traversing a large BSP-partitioned castle level.) However, for those not afraid to stitch these additional parts from other promising libraries (or derive them from first principles, as was fashionable), OGRE offered more raw rendering prowess: a working deferred shading system (this was the heyday of deferred shading), a pop-less terrain implementation with texture splatting, and more impressive shader and rendering pipeline support, with the Cg multi-platform shading language. I remember a fairly impressive ocean surface and Fresnel refraction/reflection demos from OGRE at the time.
- protocolture 1y agoYeah classic haha. I think the Ogre forums especially had quite a few of these comparison threads. "Ogre3d is a graphics engine, if you want to spend the time to strap a game to it, go for it."
- jesuslop 1y agoI remember being lured at the time by Irrlicht learning curve for a professional project and migrating to Ogre in the middle... How nightmarish was using assets coming from 3D authoring software. Repressed memories return about switching from 3D studio to XSI (better) and fighting with Collada converter plug-ins quality issues. Prefer the dentist.
- frainfreeze 1y agoBlast from the past indeed! I ve toyed around with it, Ogre3D and others, finally setting down on P3D. Over a decade ago I maintained unofficial Panda3D Facebook page, and had page analytics track followers count again Ogre3D and Irrlicht Engine pages, trying to surpass them..
- monkeyelite 1y agoIn retrospect, I think you are far better off forking Quake rather than messing with these kinds of 2010 projects which attempt to solve all problems, and do none of them very well.
- jsheard 1y agoThe problem with forking IdTech is that it's GPL, which is a problem if you ever want to release your game on consoles. The vast majority of new Quake-inspired boomer shooters take the pragmatic approach and just use Unity or Unreal instead.
- monkeyelite 1y ago> which is a problem if you ever want to release your game on consoles The direction of dependency is from your program to the console specific stuff. You can write a platform library which is linked to your program without releasing that library. > modern boomer shooters I didn't say for boomer shooters. It's a general 3D game engine. > just use Unity, Unreal or occasionally Godot instead of the actual Quake engine. Because they are popular and familiar, not because they did a serious evaluation. Also my comment was about Irrlicht/Ogre, etc.
- jsheard 1y agoIf you know of an example of GPL code being cleared for release on consoles I'd be interested to hear it because I'm not aware of any. The game Wrath: Aeon of Ruin was built on a fork of the Quake engine, but then they had to spend years rebuilding it from scratch in Unity for the console releases because GPL was verboten.
- monkeyelite 1y agoMaybe you're right. I have not tried this and don't know someone who has. I am reasoning with the example of DirectX. You should be able to release a GPL program that uses DirectX, even though nobody has the source code for it. If some version of that is not right, it's impossible to make a GPL windows or Mac UI application.
- emmelaich 1y agoThe news page mentions a few games released last year (2024).
- PenguinRevolver 1y agoHoly crap, I didn't know that they used that engine for that game. I thought they stopped using it after Octodad: DC.
- gatane 1y agoLuanti (ex Minetest) also uses this engine btw https://www.luanti.org/ https://www.luanti.org/
- jsheard 1y agoKind of, they forked Irrlicht and took it in their own direction. https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/tree/master/irr https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/tree/master/irr
- brcmthrowaway 1y agoHow does this compare to Godot
- monkeyelite 1y agoNot at all similar. Godot follows the Unity model of focusing around a GUI editor. This is a set of cpp libraries.
- jtfrench 1y agoI thought you died alone. A long, long time ago.
- valorzard 1y agoI wish there were more standalone 3D renderers like this. This, Ogre3D[0], and Wicked Engine[1] seem to be the last of their kind [0] https://github.com/OGRECave/ogre https://github.com/OGRECave/ogre [1] https://github.com/turanszkij/WickedEngine https://github.com/turanszkij/WickedEngine
- modeless 1y agoDoes this one count? http://cubeengine.com/ http://cubeengine.com/
- valorzard 1y agoYeah I guess so, lol. I don't think its super updated though. Pretty sure Red Eclipse has long since forked cube engine and done it's own thing with it
- dualogy 1y agoWicked, fully FOSS for non-console targets, I had some fun with earlier this year, it's a great very-modern full-featured D3D-or-Vulkan renderer under active development with a lively yet cozy-sized community (including a handful of folks taking care of the Linux side). The API is easily learned and can be operated via your game code from Lua or C++ or a mix, as you see fit, with Lua scripts being executable also in Wicked's editor app (Windows/Linux). My hunch is that by sticking to just Windows/Linux/consoles and firmly-decidedly-skipping other cross-platform platforms such as Apple's Metal, mobile's OpenGL, WebGL/WebGPU/WebAssembly, it is kept maintainable, unbuggy (not 100s of bug-tagged Open Github Issues) and capable of ongoing rapid feature iteration.
- pjmlp 1y agoThere are a few .NET and Java ones still going at it as well. LibGDX, jMonkeyEngine, FNA, MonoGame, Silk.NET, Vortice
- whstl 1y agobgfx is another option, it's quite active and support modern 3D APIs.
- jasperry 1y agoAnd don't forget the GUI editor for Irrlicht, CopperCube! I had an easier time getting started with this than with the more modern but heavier frameworks (never finished anything though). https://www.ambiera.com/coppercube/index.html https://www.ambiera.com/coppercube/index.html
- crivlaldo 1y agoI made a course project on Irrlicht back in 2008. It was a shooter with a Quake map, medkits, and ammo. I don’t even remember who you were supposed to shoot at. The point of the project was to show what a graphics engine is, and why I could get in just a few evenings what used to take man-months or even years only a few years earlier. I got the highest grade.
- webprofusion 1y agoGodot is currently used as the 3D engine in the Tesla in-car UI, possibly also in their apps (?). It's cross platform and open source and has a pretty vibrant dev community.
- modeless 1y agoThey're reportedly switching to UE5.
- 77pt77 1y agoFor a car UI?! Seems complete overkill.
- modeless 1y agoRivian has been using it for a while. Yeah, it's overkill.
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 1y agoIt's reasonably modular and you get access to the full source, so if you wanted to drop many chunks of it that aren't relevant to you, you could, in theory. Of course it's still a 20M+ LOC codebase and all future version updates integration are going to suck big time, but a large enough team can likely power through the suffering here.
- irrlichthn 1y agoStrange to wake up and see this on Hacker News - in 2025. I originally created this but am no longer involved - AMA if you like.
- jarrell_mark 1y agoThanks for the quality software. Had some good times in high school trying out Irrlicht
- kaiokendev 1y agoIt was a great engine. You built a great piece of software.
- rafaelmn 1y agoThank you for doing it ! What was the motivation behind it/when did you start building it ? I never built anything with it but reading through the source code got me to learn so much about programming. I probably spent more time copying stuff from Irrlicht/Ogre3D/ODE (although I never managed to grok that one) than anything else in high school.
- irrlichthn 1y agoI originally wanted to create a 3D game - and needed an engine for it. Never made it to the 3D game part, though :)
- uncircle 1y agoMany such cases
- le-mark 1y agoI spent a lot of time studying this code way back when, it was a valuable resource in my personal journey, so thank you x1000!
- lasagna_coder 1y agoWhat was the main learning you got from building the engine? Was there some feature you wanted that no other engine at the time had? If you built an engine today, what would you do differently?
- DeathArrow 1y agoWhen seeing this I wondered if I somehow accidentally accessed a 15 years old version of HN.
- pjmlp 1y agoIt was one of the most well known engines, alongside Ogre3D, before the whole Unreal/Unity dichotomy took off.
- fidotron 1y agoThere was a certain French mobile games company that maintained a private fork of this. Quite how used it was in production was never entirely clear.