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I didn’t know it was written in Zig. That’s a fascinating choice to me given how young the language is. Amazing to see it being used in a practical way in prod
by ljm 1y ago
I didn’t know it was written in Zig. That’s a fascinating choice to me given how young the language is.
Amazing to see it being used in a practical way in production.
- robinhood 1y agoZig was created in 2016 though - almost 10 years at this point. Perhaps the surprise here is that we are not as exposed to this language on well-known and established projects as other languages like Rust, Go and C.
- pdpi 1y agoZig is still at the 0.x stage, and there's still a bunch of churn going on on really basic stuff like IO and memory allocation. I really enjoy writing it, but it's by no means stable to the point many people would write production software in it.
- ivanjermakov 1y agoTo be fair, Zig 10 years ago is drastically different language from Zig today.
- ojosilva 1y agoWhich is unfortunately a problem for AI trained on Zig, it makes some AI-assisted Zig coding more challenging, like Q&A and code-completion. It's sad that this glass-ceiling has been enacted for new languages and frameworks, not a deal-breaker at all, just that suddenly there's this penalty on time-to-deliver on anything Zig. But then... the same issue exists when hiring good programmers for lesser-known tech. There'll probably be a strategy (AEO?) for this in the future for newcomers and the underrepresented, like endless examples posted by a sane AI to their docs and github for instance so it gets picked up by training sets or live, tool calling, web-searches.
- rererereferred 1y agoYes, I wouldn't train AI on Zig code just yet. But here's a radical idea, rename the language the moment it hits 1.0: all documentation, blog posts, discussions, SO answers and LLMs for older versions gets automatically voided. For future languages, maybe it's better to already have a dev name and a release name from the get go.
- dwattttt 1y agoRust hit 1.0 in 2015, it started as a project by Graydon Hoare in 2006; those dates line up pretty well with Zig's timeline.
- epolanski 1y agoThe language is very in development but it's ecosystem and tooling are absolutely mature.
- ivanjermakov 1y agoI would not say that ecosystem is mature. Outside of superb C interop and popular C/C++ lib wrappers.
- epolanski 1y agoWhat would you say that the ecosystem lacks that C has?
- ivanjermakov 1y agoVarious native Zig libraries. While C interop is great, converting between C types and calling convention is rather not convenient.