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> but it now supports similar [1] horrors inflicted by Israelis upon Palestinians I would say that Israel is historically worried about the fact that his enemi

> but it now supports similar [1] horrors inflicted by Israelis upon Palestinians I would say that Israel is historically worried about the fact that his enemies want it to make it disappear. There are many things to criticize from them but this is the basic premise.

noboostforyou 1y ago
Do you think that historical worry justifies the tens of thousands of children they are currently killing? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2025/israel-gaza-war-children-death-toll/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2025/israel...
0points 1y ago
It seems they no longer care if their actions make the general public sympathetic to this cause, which is rather troubling for a bystander.
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sirfz 1y ago
I'd say the people that are historically and actively actually being disappeared are the Palestinians, the premise is that Israel since inception wants (edit: is) to eradicate Palestinians
- germandiago 1y ago
  If they wanted that, it would have happened already.
  - sirfz 1y ago
    That's precisely why it's happening, unfortunately
danbruc 1y ago
But the solution to that is not making some other people disappear in order to make some room for Jews. And they have already stolen half of Palestine and turned it into their own state and that state is - despite its illegal origin - now internationally recognized and therefore unlikely to be undone. They just have to be satisfied with what they took and stop attempting to take the rest of Palestine, too.
- germandiago 1y ago
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  - noboostforyou 1y ago
    > Israel as a society is much more tolerant and does not make human shields with their own population. It is an objective fact that Israel has killed almost 20,000 Palestinian children since the beginning of the latest conflict (post Oct 7, 2023). For comparison, a total of less than 1,200 Israeli's were killed. Which is also unacceptable and Hamas should be condemned. But Israel's continued slaughter of innocent children has gone beyond "defending themselves" and is just as bad, if not worse, than what they claim the other side to be. You blame Hamas for using people as shields, but do you think Israel is justified in killing all these innocent children in the first place? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war
    - germandiago 1y ago
      > You blame Hamas for using people as shields, but do you think Israel is justified in killing all these innocent children in the first place? No. I do not justify it. What I say is that Hamas is literally a group that does not care even about their own people as facts show. They usually falsify the data also. So I am not sure how that data is but I acknowledge this is wild. When I think of these things I think that governments and rulers are what they are. But I wonder if you were a palestinian being a human shield of a piece of rubbish or were an Israelian that wants to take kids to school and you see how they launch missiles from the Gaza side as a routine from schools and hospitals, what would you do? It is a very desperate thing for a civil person. I prefer to not make criminals out of whom are not criminals. So Hamas and probably Netanyahu are both criminals. But the poor people from Palestine are basically kidnapped by their own governors to an extent that is hardly bearable IMHO. Israel people are also people like you and I and they have a reasonable fear of being smashed. It is not for fun that Israel has spent a huge amount of its GDP in military stuff. They do not do it for fun, whatever people try to convince me of. It is a really complex situation, that's all. No innocent deserves to die in either side. I just try to make reasonable descriptions of what I see. I am mostly neutral, even with my bias.

noboostforyou 1y ago

Do you think that historical worry justifies the tens of thousands of children they are currently killing? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2025/israel-gaza-war-children-death-toll/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2025/israel...

0points 1y ago

It seems they no longer care if their actions make the general public sympathetic to this cause, which is rather troubling for a bystander.

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sirfz 1y ago

I'd say the people that are historically and actively actually being disappeared are the Palestinians, the premise is that Israel since inception wants (edit: is) to eradicate Palestinians

germandiago 1y ago
If they wanted that, it would have happened already.
- sirfz 1y ago
  That's precisely why it's happening, unfortunately

danbruc 1y ago

But the solution to that is not making some other people disappear in order to make some room for Jews. And they have already stolen half of Palestine and turned it into their own state and that state is - despite its illegal origin - now internationally recognized and therefore unlikely to be undone. They just have to be satisfied with what they took and stop attempting to take the rest of Palestine, too.

germandiago 1y ago
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- noboostforyou 1y ago
  > Israel as a society is much more tolerant and does not make human shields with their own population. It is an objective fact that Israel has killed almost 20,000 Palestinian children since the beginning of the latest conflict (post Oct 7, 2023). For comparison, a total of less than 1,200 Israeli's were killed. Which is also unacceptable and Hamas should be condemned. But Israel's continued slaughter of innocent children has gone beyond "defending themselves" and is just as bad, if not worse, than what they claim the other side to be. You blame Hamas for using people as shields, but do you think Israel is justified in killing all these innocent children in the first place? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war
  - germandiago 1y ago
    > You blame Hamas for using people as shields, but do you think Israel is justified in killing all these innocent children in the first place? No. I do not justify it. What I say is that Hamas is literally a group that does not care even about their own people as facts show. They usually falsify the data also. So I am not sure how that data is but I acknowledge this is wild. When I think of these things I think that governments and rulers are what they are. But I wonder if you were a palestinian being a human shield of a piece of rubbish or were an Israelian that wants to take kids to school and you see how they launch missiles from the Gaza side as a routine from schools and hospitals, what would you do? It is a very desperate thing for a civil person. I prefer to not make criminals out of whom are not criminals. So Hamas and probably Netanyahu are both criminals. But the poor people from Palestine are basically kidnapped by their own governors to an extent that is hardly bearable IMHO. Israel people are also people like you and I and they have a reasonable fear of being smashed. It is not for fun that Israel has spent a huge amount of its GDP in military stuff. They do not do it for fun, whatever people try to convince me of. It is a really complex situation, that's all. No innocent deserves to die in either side. I just try to make reasonable descriptions of what I see. I am mostly neutral, even with my bias.