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Sour grapes after having Israel crush them in the competition.

by boxed 1y ago

myth_drannon 1y ago
yes, last year Ireland's entry was truly awful. They should definitely leave because their music is bad.
- boxed 1y ago
  Ultimately I think it comes down to not having a strong local competition. Countries that don't have local competitions with similar rule sets should be expected to perform badly.
oliwarner 1y ago
Weren't there bizarre voting irregularities? A massive discrepancy between judge votes and public votes, as well as far fewer plays on Spotify ahead of voting. Belgium counted +10% votes with -50% viewers (they didn't qualify). Spain, The Netherlands and Ireland also registering similar concerns. The insinuation being clear that Jewish diaspora were encouraged to vote heavily. I'm not defending Ireland's performance but Israel's was objectively mediocre too. Eurovision voting is historically biased but it was weird last year.
- boxed 1y ago
  > Weren't there bizarre voting irregularities? A massive discrepancy between judge votes and public votes, That's almost always the case. And both groups were agreed that Ireland wasn't very good :P > The insinuation being clear that Jewish diaspora were encouraged to vote heavily. Did you just complain that people voted? Seriously?
  - oliwarner 1y ago
    > Did you just complain that people voted? No, several national broadcasters did.
piltdownman 1y ago
Ireland won the real Eurovision Song Contest in 1992, 1993 and 1994, and had the costly obligation of hosting it in 1993, 1994 and 1995. We have so little interest in winning it, that the single most famous comedy show in Irish history - our Fawlty Towers equivalent - apes our desire to lose the competition to relieve ourselves of the financial burden. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_for_Europe_(Father_Ted) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_for_Europe_(Father_Ted)
- boxed 1y ago
  They won back when countries were required to sing in their local language. When that was lifted, they never recovered.

Sour grapes after having Israel crush them in the competition.

by boxed 1y ago

Sour grapes after having Israel crush them in the competition.

myth_drannon 1y ago

yes, last year Ireland's entry was truly awful. They should definitely leave because their music is bad.

boxed 1y ago
Ultimately I think it comes down to not having a strong local competition. Countries that don't have local competitions with similar rule sets should be expected to perform badly.

oliwarner 1y ago

Weren't there bizarre voting irregularities? A massive discrepancy between judge votes and public votes, as well as far fewer plays on Spotify ahead of voting. Belgium counted +10% votes with -50% viewers (they didn't qualify). Spain, The Netherlands and Ireland also registering similar concerns. The insinuation being clear that Jewish diaspora were encouraged to vote heavily. I'm not defending Ireland's performance but Israel's was objectively mediocre too. Eurovision voting is historically biased but it was weird last year.

boxed 1y ago
> Weren't there bizarre voting irregularities? A massive discrepancy between judge votes and public votes, That's almost always the case. And both groups were agreed that Ireland wasn't very good :P > The insinuation being clear that Jewish diaspora were encouraged to vote heavily. Did you just complain that people voted? Seriously?
- oliwarner 1y ago
  > Did you just complain that people voted? No, several national broadcasters did.

piltdownman 1y ago

Ireland won the real Eurovision Song Contest in 1992, 1993 and 1994, and had the costly obligation of hosting it in 1993, 1994 and 1995. We have so little interest in winning it, that the single most famous comedy show in Irish history - our Fawlty Towers equivalent - apes our desire to lose the competition to relieve ourselves of the financial burden. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_for_Europe_(Father_Ted) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_for_Europe_(Father_Ted)

boxed 1y ago
They won back when countries were required to sing in their local language. When that was lifted, they never recovered.