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Maybe. But that doesn’t excuse Korean companies violating immigration laws. Union workers who reported this and invited the raid have reported that this was a t

Maybe. But that doesn’t excuse Korean companies violating immigration laws. Union workers who reported this and invited the raid have reported that this was a tactic taken to avoid paying local workers.

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scotty79 1y ago
Why would Hyundai trust the competence of local workers? If US workforce was competent enough to build battery factory they would have built it without Hyundai. It's not like US lacks money. It just lacks everything else, including competence and common sense. It was probably a tactic to get stuff done.
- jjani 1y ago
  Koreans and the Korean government would have zero time for that excuse if e.g. a Chinese company gives the exact same reasoning to violate visa laws in Korea.
  - ziftface 1y ago
    If a Chinese company was making a substantial investment in Korea, they would likely not be stupid enough to jeopardize the project over some paperwork.
    - jjani 1y ago
      The citizens would be very unlikely to view it that way, so they'd have to pray it doesn't hit the news.
  - maxglute 1y ago
    Of course they would, assuming typical dynamics. If Koreans (or anyone) WANTED something from someone else, especially technical investment they can't do themselves, they would move heaven and earth, including look the other way to "excuses" to facilitate. The issue is US wants via coercion / pressure due to strategic leverages US that has elsewhere on host of "partners". It's not typical courting for investment. US want others who are already reluctant to invest in US on US terms, even if the terms are onerous/broken i.e. the VISA system. US not making it easy, and in fact, unnecessarily hard for political theatre. Countries are investing in US because US took away carrots and added a lot of sticks, which is already different dynamic. Most countries that really want something from someone else has to play nice, give carrots and remove sticks. US/Trump admin thinks otherwise, and maybe it's in position to get away with it. Or maybe investors will bail regardless of how big the stick gets.
silisili 1y ago
That's what I've been trying to determine because of all the fake news on both sides...did they actually do anything wrong? Because if so, this outrage feels a bit "No stop, those aren't the color immigrants we wanted you to round up."

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scotty79 1y ago

Why would Hyundai trust the competence of local workers? If US workforce was competent enough to build battery factory they would have built it without Hyundai. It's not like US lacks money. It just lacks everything else, including competence and common sense. It was probably a tactic to get stuff done.

jjani 1y ago
Koreans and the Korean government would have zero time for that excuse if e.g. a Chinese company gives the exact same reasoning to violate visa laws in Korea.
- ziftface 1y ago
  If a Chinese company was making a substantial investment in Korea, they would likely not be stupid enough to jeopardize the project over some paperwork.
  - jjani 1y ago
    The citizens would be very unlikely to view it that way, so they'd have to pray it doesn't hit the news.
- maxglute 1y ago
  Of course they would, assuming typical dynamics. If Koreans (or anyone) WANTED something from someone else, especially technical investment they can't do themselves, they would move heaven and earth, including look the other way to "excuses" to facilitate. The issue is US wants via coercion / pressure due to strategic leverages US that has elsewhere on host of "partners". It's not typical courting for investment. US want others who are already reluctant to invest in US on US terms, even if the terms are onerous/broken i.e. the VISA system. US not making it easy, and in fact, unnecessarily hard for political theatre. Countries are investing in US because US took away carrots and added a lot of sticks, which is already different dynamic. Most countries that really want something from someone else has to play nice, give carrots and remove sticks. US/Trump admin thinks otherwise, and maybe it's in position to get away with it. Or maybe investors will bail regardless of how big the stick gets.

silisili 1y ago

That's what I've been trying to determine because of all the fake news on both sides...did they actually do anything wrong? Because if so, this outrage feels a bit "No stop, those aren't the color immigrants we wanted you to round up."